politics-free-for-all

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2018-11-09 01:10:30 UTC

such great change

2018-11-09 01:10:34 UTC

At the same time, increase and create more and new taxes on everything else

2018-11-09 01:10:38 UTC

Yeah im sure that changed a lot

2018-11-09 01:10:59 UTC

Better make electricity far more expensive for households

2018-11-09 01:11:20 UTC

im sure that will help your average person, i mean after all they got more money after that tax cut do they not?

2018-11-09 01:11:22 UTC

oh yes...

2018-11-09 01:11:39 UTC

Now they can spend that money on the new & increased tax on a utility

2018-11-09 01:11:47 UTC

Here they keep increasing gas taxes, diesle and petrol now suuper expensive

2018-11-09 01:11:56 UTC

same here

2018-11-09 01:12:10 UTC

Cars are like milking cash cows

2018-11-09 01:12:17 UTC

"we care about the environment"

2018-11-09 01:12:36 UTC

People still overwhelmingly drive

2018-11-09 01:12:41 UTC

specially the working people

2018-11-09 01:12:42 UTC

riiight, it is the environment

2018-11-09 01:12:44 UTC

U know why

2018-11-09 01:12:54 UTC

because you have to get to work!

2018-11-09 01:12:58 UTC

Because all these factory sites have terrible public transport connections

2018-11-09 01:13:04 UTC

if u work a late or early shift

2018-11-09 01:13:10 UTC

you can forget about using public transport

2018-11-09 01:13:19 UTC

the only way u can do it is by working nightshifts

2018-11-09 01:13:30 UTC

take one of the latest buses there, take the earliest back home

2018-11-09 01:13:46 UTC

and they still havent figured out why ppl continue using their cars even after getting told over and over

2018-11-09 01:14:14 UTC

I mean id like to see someone go bike for 15Km after they stood on their feet for 8 hours hauling 15KG loads all day

2018-11-09 01:14:26 UTC

i certainly dont

2018-11-09 01:14:51 UTC

i wish it was different i really do

2018-11-09 01:14:52 UTC

i know what you mean

2018-11-09 01:15:01 UTC

Because busses are inconvenient, they don't come when you need it and if you do overtime, you#re fucked.

2018-11-09 01:15:13 UTC

like the railroads here

2018-11-09 01:15:17 UTC

same story

2018-11-09 01:15:23 UTC

And in some cases you drive for hours to get home when the drive is like 15-30min

2018-11-09 01:15:27 UTC

ppl dont trust them because theyre always late

2018-11-09 01:15:33 UTC

i worked at an office about 45km from home. had to pay 5โ‚ฌ a day in "city passage fees"

2018-11-09 01:15:39 UTC

that is true

2018-11-09 01:15:47 UTC

9 mins from my place to my former job

2018-11-09 01:15:50 UTC

with the car

2018-11-09 01:15:57 UTC

If i take the tram

2018-11-09 01:15:57 UTC

Busses are just inconvenient....

2018-11-09 01:16:02 UTC

it takes me 53mins

2018-11-09 01:16:12 UTC

i had 2 hours with public transport and 35-45min with car...

2018-11-09 01:16:15 UTC

Which method do u think i will pick

2018-11-09 01:16:22 UTC

Exactly!

2018-11-09 01:16:33 UTC

and here tha last bus goes like 5pm to my place from "the city"...

2018-11-09 01:16:43 UTC

that is exactly the problem here

2018-11-09 01:16:45 UTC

and they drive like every 2h or so

2018-11-09 01:16:53 UTC

connections to industrial sites are horrible

2018-11-09 01:17:01 UTC

so this tax is punishing working ppl

2018-11-09 01:18:39 UTC

I must admit that i am a politician my self, local level though.
It is seriously really hard to work towards downsizing goverment and it is very unpopular amongst both the people and the goverment it self

2018-11-09 01:19:05 UTC

who wouldve thought that people are not in favor of putting themselves out of a job

2018-11-09 01:19:17 UTC

its why it always keeps growin

2018-11-09 01:19:31 UTC

untill public calls a halt to it

2018-11-09 01:19:58 UTC

If that is ever going to happen on a large scale enough to give any real results :/

2018-11-09 01:20:46 UTC

anyhow i need to hit the bed now.
It has been a pleasure to chat with you

2018-11-09 01:28:22 UTC

allright have a good night

2018-11-09 11:45:15 UTC

@Stefan Payne where tf do you live where buses drive every 2 hours with the last one being at 5pm?

2018-11-09 12:15:55 UTC

that's any rural city

2018-11-09 12:16:03 UTC

on weekends maybe

2018-11-09 12:16:15 UTC

i used to live in small places like that a lot

2018-11-09 12:16:32 UTC

getting anywhere without a car was a pain

2018-11-09 12:26:43 UTC

I mean... i get the 2 hours... but 5pm?

2018-11-09 12:29:32 UTC

i don't know. i guess that is weird

2018-11-09 12:29:49 UTC

even in the areas with least buses, the last one would usually be as late as 11 pm

2018-11-09 12:29:59 UTC

except weekends

2018-11-09 12:30:28 UTC

Some counties have really bad bus service.

2018-11-09 12:30:54 UTC

Ah, also, some swap routes, so one route will go morning till 5 and then it's another route that goes a slightly different set of stops.

2018-11-09 12:31:46 UTC

I think I had a route similar to that in Oregon.

2018-11-09 12:45:27 UTC

Where i grew up we had buses every 5-10 minutes from 5am to 10pm and then every 20 minutes or so after that. They increased that to every 3 minutes by now.

2018-11-09 12:46:14 UTC

Where i live now the infrequent buses are hourly until 9pm.

2018-11-09 12:46:29 UTC

And thatโ€˜s semi rural

2018-11-09 12:47:00 UTC

But not in the US, so... hard to compare.

2018-11-09 12:54:13 UTC

Maybe I'm trying too hard to play devil's advocate.

2018-11-09 12:54:17 UTC

It sure does seem unusual.

2018-11-09 13:50:35 UTC

@I AM ERROR Germany in the Woods, almost Denmark. And I think I was mistaken.
And the last bus at around 17:00h is accurate.

2018-11-09 13:50:55 UTC

Its more or less only for School, not much else.

2018-11-09 13:51:18 UTC

That makes sense.

2018-11-09 13:51:35 UTC

Now that I am back in Europe, I really want to explore this place better.

2018-11-09 13:51:50 UTC

I want to go and see all the castles here.

2018-11-09 13:52:00 UTC

That's one thing I didn't really have back in the US.

2018-11-09 13:52:09 UTC

Maybe a fort here and there, but it's not the same.

2018-11-09 14:00:32 UTC

Sorry, we only have 2 centuries of history in domestic warfare, mostly against inferior opponents.

2018-11-09 14:00:43 UTC

Europe has millenia, with many rival kingdoms.

2018-11-09 14:11:25 UTC

I accept your apology.

2018-11-09 14:11:34 UTC

Try harder next millennium.

2018-11-09 16:23:43 UTC

team deathmatch

2018-11-09 17:59:23 UTC

wait is this for actual completely free political speech?

2018-11-09 17:59:30 UTC

even for extremists?

2018-11-09 18:08:51 UTC

I'm pretty sure anything less is a betrayal of Tim's political ideology.

2018-11-09 18:09:18 UTC

I've already advocated for a return to monarchy and a dissolution of female suffrage, go nuts.

2018-11-09 18:11:28 UTC

okay thx

2018-11-09 18:11:55 UTC

well i personally think we humans aren't capable at surviving on earth

2018-11-09 18:11:59 UTC

its either us or the earth

2018-11-09 18:12:08 UTC

and if its us

2018-11-09 18:12:16 UTC

it will be mars in a couple a decades

2018-11-09 18:12:37 UTC

That's a bold statement, considering I presume you're still alive.

2018-11-09 18:12:40 UTC

As am I.

2018-11-09 18:13:44 UTC

no use in just me killing myself right?

2018-11-09 18:14:05 UTC

and if i were to kill other people i would come over as a lunatic and nobody would bother to look into my arguments

2018-11-09 18:15:01 UTC

and clearly its impossible for huamns to wipe ourselves out in a systematic manner

2018-11-09 18:15:04 UTC

look at 1939

2018-11-09 18:15:17 UTC

and 1940, 1941, 1942 etc

2018-11-09 18:16:10 UTC

Putting aside the relative ease several plans would have in eradicating human life, why do you believe humans are not capable of surviving on Earth?

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