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2018-12-05 12:51:11 UTC

But the path was walked down initially because of that

2018-12-05 12:51:24 UTC

Not all of Cali's laws, but the open carry one, originally. Because the black panthers where using their open carry rights to scare off the police, who they viewed as racist (at the time, probably were)

2018-12-05 12:51:45 UTC

Yeah probably tbh lol

2018-12-05 12:51:55 UTC

Basically citizens defending their community so of course commiefornia would go "we can't have that"

2018-12-05 12:52:07 UTC

XD

2018-12-05 12:52:36 UTC

Did Adam end the episode on some BS like "we need *"common sense"* gun restrictions"

2018-12-05 12:53:50 UTC

Like i said, not awful. All things considered, more pro-gun than I was expecting. And relatively fair to both sides. Technically yes, he did say there are some "common sense" things but ultimately the answer was "not enough data to really say what, and things proposed don't work."

2018-12-05 12:55:18 UTC

Oh

2018-12-05 12:55:21 UTC

Well

2018-12-05 12:55:29 UTC

Wouldn't expect that from Adam Conover lol

2018-12-05 12:55:43 UTC

Guess he's more center left on that issue then

2018-12-05 12:55:56 UTC

Kind of like Tim almost lmao

2018-12-05 12:56:21 UTC

It's convenient that the "main problem" appears to be a lack of federal control.

2018-12-05 12:57:17 UTC

At least to that one really effeminate looking dude on the TV s

2018-12-05 12:58:29 UTC

Yeah, give Trump more power.

2018-12-05 12:58:33 UTC

Genius, man.

2018-12-05 12:59:01 UTC

Lmao

2018-12-05 12:59:13 UTC

Kind of an odd conclusion there

2018-12-05 12:59:17 UTC

It's a good thing Trump won't allow any BS gun restrictions to pass under his administration

2018-12-05 13:00:01 UTC

He's either toying with or has pushed for a bump stock ban, and has tried to talk about gun legislation earlier this year.

2018-12-05 13:00:11 UTC

That's an issue he's still clearly kept his Democratic roots on.

2018-12-05 13:00:44 UTC

Hm

2018-12-05 13:00:58 UTC

Yep, said the ban is happening and is in its final stages.

2018-12-05 13:01:08 UTC

I like most of his policies, but he's being a real pill with this one.

2018-12-05 13:01:38 UTC

Yeah I agree I'm not loving this with him but I was thinking a bit more long term

2018-12-05 14:38:10 UTC

*Look at how smart I am about the Nazis*

2018-12-05 14:41:12 UTC

*I'll just ignore how the Nazis used contemporary issues and alarmism to consolidate government control. That may reflect poorly on how my political tribe is trying to use contemporary issues and alarmism to consolidate government control* -Twitter smart man

2018-12-05 14:46:25 UTC

XD

2018-12-05 14:47:33 UTC

honestly watching shan's videos is almost unbearable
something about the way he speaks is just extremely irritating
going "erhm" "uhm" "ah" every three words and speaking so incredibly slow as though you're too stupid to process if he speaks too quickly

2018-12-05 14:51:20 UTC

good morning guys!

2018-12-05 14:53:29 UTC

well 10

2018-12-05 14:55:59 UTC

Ohayo

2018-12-05 15:08:14 UTC

Itโ€™s also dangerous to use the Nazis as a parallel for everything.

2018-12-05 15:08:40 UTC

yeah

2018-12-05 15:09:00 UTC

shaun and a bunch of other people like him love to call everything and everyone right of center nazis

2018-12-05 15:09:30 UTC

>complains about NPC meme dehumanizing leftists
>proceed to dehumanize conservatives by calling them all nazis

2018-12-05 15:10:26 UTC

Hell, Iโ€™ll admit I associate too many things with communism and socialism.

2018-12-05 15:11:01 UTC

I just wish people would let conflict theory die.

2018-12-05 15:11:07 UTC

IT FAILED!

2018-12-05 15:11:25 UTC

conflict theory?

2018-12-05 15:13:40 UTC

The Marxist idea of class conflict that modern leftists have expanded to include race and gender.

2018-12-05 15:17:55 UTC

That's intersectionality lel

2018-12-05 15:18:24 UTC

Though i don't think that started of as a marxist thing

2018-12-05 15:18:46 UTC

Intersectionality is Frankfurt-School Marxism, isn't it?

2018-12-05 15:18:49 UTC

That should still die.

2018-12-05 15:18:52 UTC

No, no

2018-12-05 15:18:59 UTC

That's postmodernism @devpav

2018-12-05 15:19:06 UTC

Truth isn't real

2018-12-05 15:19:20 UTC

Everything is a power hierarchy

2018-12-05 15:19:29 UTC

I don't think Derrida is tied directly to the Frankfurt School.

2018-12-05 15:19:34 UTC

That's the Frankfurt school

2018-12-05 15:19:36 UTC

*Slaps @Abel*

2018-12-05 15:19:46 UTC

Commie.

2018-12-05 15:19:57 UTC

I don't actually believe those lol

2018-12-05 15:20:09 UTC

I know, just needed to let that out.

2018-12-05 15:20:50 UTC

The people who wrote the grievance studies papers wrote really good articles about postmodernism

2018-12-05 15:21:56 UTC

That itโ€™s little more than sophistry and hollow words?

2018-12-05 15:22:38 UTC
2018-12-05 15:22:55 UTC

Yep.

2018-12-05 15:23:18 UTC

Postmodernism is cancer upon the West and intellectualism as a whole.

2018-12-05 15:23:43 UTC

How so?

2018-12-05 15:24:12 UTC

There are objective truths.

2018-12-05 15:24:28 UTC

Past events show a clear line of cause and effect.

2018-12-05 15:24:41 UTC

There are natural laws that must be obeyed.

2018-12-05 15:25:06 UTC

It's the idea proposing objectivity and the concept of truth is a lie

2018-12-05 15:25:23 UTC

It's so flexible that it's basically bulletproof

2018-12-05 15:25:24 UTC

Postmodernists deny those facts and embrace a world of pure subjectivity.

2018-12-05 15:26:10 UTC

For example "There are no natural sex differences, there are only docile bodies"

2018-12-05 15:27:33 UTC

Objective facts include that the solar system is heliocentric, the Earth is round, murder is wrong, rape is wrong, cannibalism is wrong, eating dogs is wrong, etc.

2018-12-05 15:28:39 UTC

No amount of cultural relativism or sociology will ever convince me that eating dogs is morally right or civilized.

2018-12-05 15:30:05 UTC

You canโ€™t change my mind on this.

2018-12-05 15:36:18 UTC

wait until you are starving

2018-12-05 15:38:34 UTC

Iโ€™d sooner eat my toes and ring fingers than eat my dog.

2018-12-05 15:44:41 UTC

The amount of obsession both for and against Jordan Peterson is bizarre

2018-12-05 15:44:56 UTC

I find the against more bizarre than the for

2018-12-05 15:46:07 UTC

Lol. I was just about to say "He generally explains when he's giving an opinion vs facts. Whats so controversial about giving facts?"

I must have had a stroke

2018-12-05 15:47:00 UTC

We exist in an era where basic search for meaning and self improvement is downplayed in favour of forming attachment to your flaws

2018-12-05 15:47:22 UTC

It's basically the only era where Peterson could be as relevant as he is

2018-12-05 15:47:57 UTC

Yeah right? I mean why on Earth would I have thought "it's not controversial". I live in a time where people are so narcissistic they pretend to be empathetic

2018-12-05 15:48:20 UTC

By talking about "muh oppression" that they more than likely don't actually experience

2018-12-05 15:48:58 UTC

I'm no intellectual though.

2018-12-05 15:49:07 UTC

I'm just some normie

2018-12-05 15:49:30 UTC

You can tell when people are actually empathetic because they will approach the issues of someone they don't agree with from an outside perspective, even if at the end of the day they don't agree with that process

2018-12-05 15:49:48 UTC

There's a Saudi in the church for the bush service

2018-12-05 15:50:27 UTC

Wow. Michelle and Barrak just shake hands with Trump?

2018-12-05 15:50:34 UTC

Twitter is full of apathy

2018-12-05 15:50:41 UTC

Oh probably

2018-12-05 15:50:45 UTC

Itโ€™s a funeral.

2018-12-05 15:50:54 UTC

There's still a level of decorum

2018-12-05 15:51:04 UTC

Still though. I half expected it to be stupidly partisan even there

2018-12-05 15:51:19 UTC

I'm just surprised the decorum is there still

2018-12-05 15:51:27 UTC

That's nice at least

2018-12-05 15:51:31 UTC

Death is different than politics

2018-12-05 15:51:48 UTC

Also, I watched the video about Bushโ€™s dog last night, and Iโ€™m confused by that one report that didnโ€™t understand that dogs are capable of mourning.

2018-12-05 15:51:52 UTC

I think Trump hates political decorum, but when it comes to personal issues he'll play by the rules

2018-12-05 15:52:05 UTC

Cannot believe jimmy Carter is still alive

2018-12-05 15:52:49 UTC

I have less bad things to say about Bush than I did McCain, so Iโ€™m more willing to let people mourn.

2018-12-05 15:52:53 UTC

I think I wanna tour the national cathedral. It's only an hour away

2018-12-05 15:53:00 UTC

Do it.

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