Unfortunately, our world is far from ideal

It was insane. the Students most into social justice literally can't even understand things like comparative advatage. And this was at a leading Ivy for finance.

It's terrifying.

The platform was dead to me after that. If I couldn't say something so boring and mundane without creating an incident what good was it?

A lot of the tax money people think would go to the poor would be better spent donating to charities directly

@Atkins I know the feeling. I think I've been blocked from most people who might follow me.

Thing is all these people dont want to donate but want the feeling of moral superiority from asking another to do so

Twitter's no different. Though I guess it's nearly completely cloven into two separate spheres at this point with blocklists.

Like for example, conservatives donate more often than liberals.

My personal theory is that twitter has always been the worst of all of them.

And the smaller numbers add up more. OF course the left responds by saying donating to churches dont count

Never a positive thing from it.

@Atkins That reminds me of one time during college I asked on FB why people still celebrated 9/11 (10 years after the fact) and one of my "friends" said that was the least patriotic thing they'd read in their life and that I should be ashamed.

I was just asking a question

and I was attacked for it

Retards everywhere man. In this day and age, anything is "concern trolling"

I hate the concept of concern trolling so much.

I remember first hearing that term when Razorfist replied to me.

I said his Mad Max review was being ruined by political commentary

And he says I'm concern trolling.

Fuckin'... what?

Today is actually the first I've heard that term

Should I consider myself lucky?

Thankfully I have recently learned of the term 'whataboutism' so I am now allowed to be an unabashed hypocrite.

"This is all fine and dandy but.."

Yeah, but next thing you know "whatifism" will be a thing

"That cant surely be that bad"

I actually kinda like concern trolling.

It's a highly effective tactic for disruption.

"What if Hillary had won?" "OH BUT THAT'S A WHATIFISM"

"whataboutism" is meant to kill a specific kind of stalling tactic though

I saw a comment on TD, some guy went on politics and say, why cant we praise the 5% of what Trump does? Instead of condemning the whole lot

Concern trolling is the kind of thing that should be out of bounds, but if used properly it *destroys* communities.

COncenrn trolling

usually used by commies who dont want to admit that their ideology is responsible for butchering millions

Personally what irritates me is ShareBlue.

So stuff like its not real communism

no

stuff like "what about all the bad things the US does?"

I'd love so much to see someone take ShareBlue down.

who the fuck is shareblue?

Call it what it is, pratel. Correct The Record

You mean ShariaBlue

Hoooo boy. You're in for a lesson.

Don't you know that manipulating public forums for your political gain is alright as long as it's done by an american group?

Have they anything to show for their money?

Hllary funded a shill op

Beemann, ShareBlue is the rebranded Correct the Record

Share Blue (formerly Correct the Record) is a astroturfing organization with millions of dollars in budget.

Under a different name

David Brock's organization.

**"In December 2017, Shareblue announced a partnership with SiriusXM Progress"**

Oh christ what is this...

It's pretty widely accepted that /r/politics is in complete control of ShareBlue and probably other subreddits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SiriusXM_Progress

What is this fucking nonsense.

They also go after Facebook. Post alot of stuff.

They're pushing the Fake news and censorship angle hard recently.

>reddit

/r/politics changed on its head over like a couple days. It was downright eerie

does anyone even subscribe to siriusXM anymore?

The point of ShareBlue is literally to control the conversation on all forms of social media.

I might've subscribed one day.

If they kept Anthony Cumia

The only time I know of anybody actually getting any satellite radio subscription was when my parents bought a new car several years ago and it came with a one month trial

and an annual renewal of said trial to try and get them to buy it full-time

Fortunately, my parents are cheapskates

@Beemann It's one hell of a rabbit hole. https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump

but the solution has always been to stop using FB/Twitter/etc whenever possible

They're budget is insane.

so the goal remains the same really :^)

News of Facebook's radical drop was quite heartening

Beemann, actually, that's not a solution

If people stop trying to spread a message there, then the shills win

@Beemann it doesn't really matter. The objectives are the same as any good intel operation.

Twitter's been declining for awhile.

I wonder how bad twitter's audit will be

wut

(1) rally your allies and convert any middle-of-the-roaders
(2) chase out your opposition and prevent them from organizing.

the shills win if nobody is there to read their message?

If you kill your enemies they win!!

The normies will be there

Destroying Social Media organizations is more than OK if you can replace them with more favorable ones.

the normies are steadily getting tired of being fucked with

Social media isn't going away.

Do you guys think myspace will make a comeback

Unlikely

@Beemann Are they? Or are we just seeing the ones who do?

oh media matters lol

I'm moving to Minds

I think MySpace has made as much of a comeback as it ever will

@Deleted User I think it's probably more like Discord and the like will take over.

But I haven't figured out how to DM people

Myspace sucked when it was in its prime.

Do people even remember?

Pseudo anonymity and disposable accounts.

And it's mostly just thots

Is the only way to go.

@Beemann ShareBlue is distinct from MediaMatters but has very similar goals and strategies.

They're parallel organizations with different targets.

according to the doc, they're "Part of the plan"

Indeed. You don't act alone. It's a key part of effective organization.

Whos' funding them?

When these people were kids, did they fantasize about doing shit like this..?

Probably the same people

Yeah but who?

Just worming around all day, lying to people and hoping they wouldn't find out?

Scribblehatch, when people are kids, do they fantasize about being in politics?

....(((who))) 😉

@Atkins It's really hard to say. The left has a massive fundrasing operation.

I don't think *any* kid ever grows up to be what they wanted to be when they were a kid. If one does, they're one of the luckiest people on Earth.

Or unluckiest. Take your pick.

'You don't understand, I'm a hero, I'm saving the world from Nazis, being a hero isn't like what you thought as a kid' - these guys probably

@Atkins I forget the primary fundraising organizations, but there are several. They also trade notes. There's a reason you usually see ACLU and SPLC bumper stickers together. They send mailers to the same donors.

Plus, you have activists who will essentially demand tribute when they protest. They get it from businesses.

A big surge probably came from Soros dropping 18 bil across the left-wing board.

@Schedrevka I think what most people who say that forget is that kids have the purest interpretation of heroes. They don't have politics, teachings, and beliefs skewing their view.

For reference, 2016 spent about 1 bil IIRC

during the election.

but remember, that 10grand in facebook posts from russia hijacked a whole election

The right wing press is really negligent. Whenever Koch drops a grant on a Uni everyone knows and the left is demanding to see the terms.

The right doesn't even know who the latest left wing canvassers are.

Right wing press is too busy trying to make a buck.

Never mind things like the Ford Foundation essentially bankroling the entire modern social justice movement.

Yeah. There's a reason I find myself listening to moderate leftists like Tim over the right wing presses

Ford's doin wot

I hadn't heard anything about this

Didn't they give money to BAMN?

Or maybe it was the National Lawyer's Guild. I forget.

@Scribblehatch if you trust KiA: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/8i8xha/history_ford_foundation_funding_created_womens/

Oh Boy. NLG.

So it's just virtue signal charity.

@Atkins Por que no los dos?

@Scribblehatch, I wouldn't say that. It's one of the largest endowments in the country and they bankroll everything. Sometime around the 60s and 70s they decided to push social reforms and have been solidly hard left ever since.

Probably a lot of overlap between them anyway.

@Scribblehatch It's a big BIG step up from mere "virtue signalling." They'll drop a couple hundred million on a university and create whole programs.

And those programs then go and create their own infrastrcuture.

The entire STEM building at my uni was built with Koch money

Koch is tiny compared to Ford.

Like, orders of magnitude.

Koch is unique in that up until now he's been very picky in how his money is spent. But that's probably going to change. UnKoch My Campus succeeded in forcing him to reveal the terms of his grants.

The experience of the right wing donor class is that their money tends to get reappropriated in favor of prorams preferred by the administration and the social justice left.

@Atkins NLG was behind several 1st amendment shoutdowns recently. They also defended the weathermen for free and donated their own kids to support weatherman bombings.

Back when the Weathermen were a thing.

At one of the protests Tim filmed a while back there were NLG people there who said they'd testify only on behalf of Antifa and not the other side.

Biased observers masquerading as neutral.

Oh yes. That's the National Lawyers Guild all right.

No tactic too extreme or too illegal. No bad tactics. Only bad tragets.

Karen was probably the first of all these peoplem I was into.

--Aside from Hitchens

Oh and there's Sam Harris, whom I discovered after Hitchens.

Oh speaking of Sam.

I still need to watch the rest of Cassie Jaye's footage

This video I found the other day

This video changed my LIFE boi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzMhLmErz5Q

💋 👌

Fan**tiss**imo~

People like BAMN and NLG creep the hell out of me.

They're far more common than you think. Which is the scary part.

Yvette is funny though

Slightly better source on how philanthropic funds became co-opted and created the social justice infrastructure

https://www.city-journal.org/html/billions-dollars-made-things-worse-12159.html

this little fucking hobbit running around trying to beat on people, and they just stare down at her, unfazed like "what are you doing?"

She'd be such a cute little thing if she weren't evil.

The little imp.

I could pick her up and swing her like a branch.

it's like those looney toons bits where someone small tries to beat on the big buff dude

but the big buff dude in this case is a normal human being

It's the indoctrination of her middle school students that really bothers me about her

I been around some racist motherfuckers, but they'll come together with inner city blacks when the shit hits the fan and be like family. But political ideologues are almost religious cultists. Pod people.

true

Uncle Ruckus and that country singer.

Ebony. And Ivoryyyyyyy~

Army's like that.

Even better article on Ford: https://capitalresearch.org/article/the-ford-foundation-it-keeps-a-low-profile-but-funds-government-entitlements-racial-preferences-legal-activists/

Names specific grants and causes. Like bankrolling legal groups defending Affirmative

Oh has anyone gone through Cheers recently?

There's a line by Cliff in there, which is downright SPOOKY

It's like 4 consecutive lines of him predicting the SJW movement to a T.

people have been predicting our current state of affairs for decades

I know I know.

But it's PARTICULARLY noteworthy. And I wish I could remember the exact episode.

It's also good because it's Cheers. Meaning well-written.

my favourite is still Huxley having that followup to Brave New World and going "Well shit, I thought this was like a "hundred years from now" thing"

Cheers is 2nd only to Taxi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVppS1rsbxo

Someone linked that clip on a halloween of years past. It made me watch the whole series. Best decision I ever made.

Taxi is phenomenal.

The genealogy is Taxi -> Cheers -> Simpsons / Frasier -> Futurama

A shared writing staff of extreme talent.

When are they going to finally pull the plug on the Simpsons?

whenever it stops making lodsemone

It's indecent what's been done to it.

like anything else

I just stopped watching it

Who watches it?

They changed their format to reach a wider less-cynical audience.

Back when simpsons was hot, it wasn't something my parents would like to watch

Too... y'know. Married With Children-y

Or Roseanne-y

Had a slight cloud of depression over it.

Which came from speaking the truth.

Simpsons isn't like that anymore. Now it's far more wacky. Everything they do is to keep its heart beating longer.

Integrity be **damned.**

Hence getting rid of Apu, I heard.

https://deadhomersociety.com/zombiesimpsons/

Reading that from start to finish was really interesting,

Aw no I loved apu

Everyone does.

I stopped watching when Maude Flanders died. Just checked and that was eighteen fucking years ago. Damn I'm old.

He's like the one character that's a legitimately good guy

Who loves Apu? <https://i.imgur.com/Yv7vlJf.gifv>

Nah, Apu scams people all the time with expired products. lol

"Eh no one will notice."

It's a head bag! Full of heady goodness.

No one gets off free.

FLANDERS is the legitimately good guy.

That's just every shopkeeper in general

Do you forget Flanders you silly doodly?

Ned Flanders is Donald Trump

I--

How do I even respond to that

Jk lol

What you just said

Was **bananas.**

Sorry to be so crass.

Oh Skinner is noble too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iTJGJYSD0

The only time the blue haired lawyer ever got his poop pushed in

Seriously despite him fitting an American stereotype(as many Simpsons characters do) he's one of the only actually all around respectable character in the show

Flanders has the veneer of decency, but always ends up becoming judgemental, or authoritarian in any sort of alternative reality scenario where he's given power

one of those friendly people you never want in charge

I love friends

It's a great show

Never understood the affection that show has.

Friends = 🤢

it seemed alright

friends is great

I love it as much as seinfeld

Both are horrible

Havent watched any comedies in a long

Last I watched, I used to rewatch young ones, or blackadder

Now I just rewatch the Yogs

I think I find funnier content on YT now

An Indian friend of mine (he's not at all SJW, he just did it it in this one topic) said to me that Apu's accent is really bad blah blah blah and said "how do you feel about Groundskeeper Willie and his accent?" expecting me to take his position.

Ehh, the problem is that there are people in Scotland who sound like Groundskeeper Willie. Not me, I'm from Edinburgh, but Willie's is an exaggerated Highland accent. Also his behaviour - alcoholic, violent, bad tempered, antisocial. All negative stereotypes about Scots and especially rural-dwelling Scots, but there's some truth in them. We are too violent here and we are too drunk as well.

So anyway, the whole anti-Apu crusade was nonsense.

Apu isn't even like....offensive

Literally almost every guy here sounds worse

Yeah he's quite a good guy!

His accent was pretty spot on

On yt I avoid almost all comedy

I like AVGN, and a bunch of classic youtubers like Ashens

Otherwise, it's mostly stuff like Factual Feminist and HBR