Ideologies that have existed for centuries become illogicak in the sense of the mass

More like 300

While other nations are thousands of years old.

Less than 300

We arent even 300

I mean close to 300.

Sorry hit 4 instead of 3.

225 iirc

Who knows what we’ll do in 1000 years

Be dead

Boop

I think we’re probably going to be a Roman like empire

But what makes United States unique, we learned from other nation's mistakes.

Neep

In 3018

You guys are idiots, the US is 2018 years old, do you not even know what year it is?

🤔

What if we start doing the years by when America was founded

That is recorded history's age.

Like freaking Rome

Not United States age.

Dusty

Dont take

Anything

He says

Seriously

History has absolutely been recorded from BC

What country did you come from @SantaSoc

Italy

I have a habit of taking everyone seriously.

Because I consider it a sign of respect.

I don't treat them as a joke.

No matter how stupid and moronic thier ideas are.

I dont take them as a joie but i can read between lines of context

Joke*

I wonder if America will eventually balkanaize like Rome

Nah... America has a built in system that will allow it to be reborn from time to time.

We are allowed to revolt against our government form new governments, but stay United States of America.

Curious as to why americans view brothels or prostitution as negative

It does, but we'll see what happens

~~like the glory of Rome~~

@SantaSoc I think prostitution is a perversion of what should be an intimate human relationship

It’s literally the monetization of human intimacy

It’s fucked

Rome was technically a monarch with congress that aided that monarch.

But americans are rarely intimate as a culture

Are you saying negative for the individual, society, or why it should be unlawful?

No people voted the monarch into power.

Third

Because intimacy isn’t something you just hand out; doesn’t mean we don’t believe in it

Schedmyskin

Intimacy can be handed out

You do realize that prostitution is considered the oldest profession.

^

I'd say that it's fairly common for people these days to be in favor of legalizing prostitution in the US, but the people who are against it care far more than those in favor

Actually I think that’s a problem with our culture; we are too willing to throw around sex and marriage because it doesn’t mean anything anymore so we have all these family shattering discorces

I think it should be legalized, but regulated for everyone's safety.

@Dusty Morgan well slavery is one of the worlds oldest institutions as well

The "oldest profession" title has been used for all sorts of professions for a long time. It's a truism.

Doesn’t mean it’s right

Why not? People who are single and have no chance to ever get married.

Can seek comfort from prostitutes.

But slavery in the sense of servantry or forced unpaid labor?

And prostitutes are not forced, it is basically voluntary profession.

Prostitution is often the same whether regulated or no

Prostitutes actually built the wild west.

With the money they earned from the comfort men seek.

F ur adam ruins everything

Towns sprung up.

*G U Y S*

<:NPC:500042527231967262>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHxvxdRnYc

G I R LS

They didn't run the towns, technically, but they had large influence.

Oh lord, it somehow got worse with Tumblr

😩

2nd trailer seems a bit better, but still seems like poor casting

You are late LOL

I'm early, it's 6:50 AM :^)

I honestly think without prostitution, the wild west wouldn't have been settled as much until the land rush.

I find prostitution to be healthy, but it shouldnt be a forced career.

I'd say that prostitution if it became widespread is overall a negative for society, but that the individual's freedom should override that so it should be legalized.

I’m not denying the monetary benefits of prostitution; and honestly it’s because of those monetary benefits that I oppose it. It’s love bought and sold. I am heavily morally opposed to it

I just got the memo 😅

The prostitution did give us a foothold to settle the west.

hero op late plox

I am center-right Emperor.

Also Atheist.

So you think prostitutes shouldnt get paid for it?

Prostitution is always going to exist... regardless if you make it illegal or not.

^

In some way, shape, or form...

Might as well make it legal and regulated.

So it is safe for everyone.

With it being illegal it's under the jurisdiction of pimps and thugs rather than the law.

Im morally against denying that route of income, you basically are saying either join the system or get fucked either way

Murder is always going to exist.

Better regulate it.

Lol

Yeah we’ll theft is going to exist no matter what we do; doesn’t mean we should still have it. And I don’t like the idea of society condoning the activity with legality

Theft is always going to exist. Better legalize it.

Bad comparison

Where are my state mandated sexbots?

Very bad comparsion.

This is why it is hard to make any argument.

It can be flipped and used in a bad way.

Theft is not a victimless crime.

you bring up a good point.

To counter that.

Prostitution is victimless, both parties agree.

I don’t want little girls to think that prostitution is a legitimate career, or that men should participate in it instead of having real relationships

Thief and Murder have victims.

People are against people finding a way to surcive

I agree, that doesn't mean it should be outlawed.

Survive

Emperor... Strippers exist.

Like seriously.

That gives many girls income to make it through college.

@Schedrevka then how should we do it that people aren’t confined to follow this career but also let it be legal

It is like a soft form of prostitution.

I think it’s demeaning; your itemizing yourself

Men pay the women money to strip.

Accept the fact that some people are going to make decisions you disagree with.

The women get all the money and more power over the men.

Hell women can get men to do whatever they want.... women get power.

I dont want kids to think that prostitution is a viable career yet we have over 344k being trafficked because parents were irresponsible.

What's weird is that prostitution is illegal, but add a camera to the mix, monetize the recording, and it's legal.

Right. But I should disincentivize people from making decisions I disagree with.

Apparently the government decided that pornography is protected by the First Amendment.

What is the different between men being prostitutes when compared to women?

Like seriously... no one talks about male prostitution.

Because men are disposable

^^

Yeah, and I don't often talk about female doctors.

Exactly.

People should be free to choose their profession.

Doctors are mostly men, prostitutes are mostly women.

I'd say it's more that they're much less common, and straight male prostitution is far far less common

Though I don't disagree with the premise

Female prostitution will always be more profitable due to natural biological differences; men have a stronger sex drive

I just think you are screwing more people over banning it than legalizing it.

Lots of women would give a arm and a leg to be able to make money from prostitution because it provides income for them. It being regulated protect the women in that profession and the customers they provide servers too.

Not to mention it locks out the pimps and criminal elements.

Also a woman who would want a prostitute can probably just go to a bar

@Dusty Morgan but that won’t happen; the pimps will get into the legal business

Yeah, regulating prostitution protects the people it regulates.

If they get in legal business, they become legit and regulated.

Just like the EPA protects the environment.

And use their newfound legal money to lobby government to deregulate the business

They can't do whatever they want.

What's wrong with pimps going legit if they follow the law?

Pimps are just the sex version of agents.

Common sense regulations are actually what we wnat.

You think they're going to be able to lobby to make abuse and slavery legal?

We should criminalize agents.

Not oppressive regulation.

`common sense regulations` Oh come on. You know that that means nothing.

Common sense life regulations.

Not in today's society.

People use regulation to control, instead of help.

Nothing unreasonable. We just need to have common sense rules about who gets to live.

It means whatever is convenient to the person talking.

Mark my words; Big Sex, Big Weed and Big Drug will deregulate all these “regulated” drugs and services and make them as bad as they always were except with a shiny vernier and the law protecting them

Like make all prostitutes use condoms when providing service.

Like what happened with the mafia and alcohol?

War in the chat

The customer must be checked for STD's and other viruses.

And women in the business must be regularly tested.

And like that, you've created an underground market.

To avoid regulation.

Those are common sense regulation.

Black markets don't mean that we should do away with white markets.

Common sense regulations people will avoid, in order to make money, by their own choice, which you said is fine.

If theres a will theres a way

@Dusty Morgan what’s to stop these new legal businesses to lobby the government to deregulate and allow the same shitty practices as before

Well it is always going to be and happen.

Let's just get rid of the FDA because people sell home made drugs that get people killed

But atleast there is safer alternatives to illegal prostitution.

I hate discussing any topic because you can dumb down to theres always a way around it

Yea, like whacking it.

@Emperor of USA Do you really believe they'll be able to lobby to make slavery legal?

And it will be a privatized business.

You dont 20$ when you can just whack it

Out of the hands of the government.

"I hate discussion"

Well, I don't disagree.

Moreover the new legal businesses can hire the best attornies in the world to protect themselves from prostitutes who claim to be abused by their pimps

Crimsom fleshlights for 10$ pls

What makes you think this will happen?

All systems can be abused

Buying sex toys when you got a good old fashion cheese grater at home 😏

Did this happen when the temperence movement faded?

Nothing. I have no reason to think this system will ever be put into place.

That is common when starting a new business, new rules need to be put into place and regulations to fine any of those that abuse their employees.

That why men are becoming women to make the monies and be hot lol'

Ouch my dick crimsom

Do we still have people with jake leg?

@Schedrevka because that happens; whenever it’s between a small guy and a big business they lose a legal suit

Jake from statefarm

You're making a lot of assumptions and treating them as fact

^

We are deep in heck here...

You can't just enslave someone and then get a good lawyer and keep running business as usual

Conjectures*

Snerk.

Of course you can.

Lmao, sweatshops

Snerk is a word?

Nike basically does that

^

In the US?

Bethedsa

A nasal snort of derision. Snerk.

Prostitution helped the growth of the west and then we basically made it illegal. It is like saying thanks for the help, but now get the fuck out. :\

Snort and jerk

@Dusty Morgan it’s not like it wasn’t illegal; they were just too far away to do anything about it

It was always illegal they just couldn’t enforce the law

I'm pretty sure whores are still legal in Nevada.

Emperor... you know why it is illegal. It was because of religion.

What happen to the separation of church and state, when we are making a profession illegal based off religious texts.

That doesn’t change the incorrectness of your statement; you said that they *made* it illegal

When it always was

It wasn't always fucking illegal.

It's illegal because we have laws against it. People vote for individuals who do what they want. What people want is based on beliefs, including religious beliefs.

^

In that sense, what, you want people to be barred from voting for stuff for religious reasons?

Then why even have a democracy?

Yes I don't want religion dictating anything in this nation.... religion has a bad habit of being tyrants towards it citizens.

```Then why even have a democracy?```
Exactly that's the question right now in Euroland...

This is my atheism talking.

So, you don't want democracy, got it.

Separation of church and state is fundimental to United States founding.

Even our founding fathers understood this.

Yeah, so was slavery. I don't see you defending that.

And they were themselves christians.

I'm in Germany right now and does it look like the politicians act as democratic elected officials representing the population???

Separation of church and state was supposed to prevent a church as a organizational entity dictating law, not citizens voting based on their religious conscience

No, they don't, Merkel acts like a Dictator

And they dictated a law... through organization of churches.

By legislation through votes.

Look, as long as the Pope isn't dictating policy to America, that portion of the law is functioning as intended.

^^^

https://relevantmagazine.com/current/politics/7-things-christians-need-remember-about-politics

We're not going to pretend like the Founders weren't talking about Catholicism.

So many times I have seen churches telling their followers to vote for a certain person.

Pope has no authority here

Muslims do it in their community too.

Most founding fathers were deists

To get muslim community leaders or mayor.

Even freaking orthadox Jews do this.

What's your point?