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2018-08-16 14:46:44 UTC

I mean block me if you want, I'm asking you a direct question. Are you in favor of pedophilia?

2018-08-16 14:47:08 UTC

how can you oppose or favor a sexual attraction/psychiatric disorder, they just exist. how can you have a stance on it

2018-08-16 14:47:18 UTC

@RelicArts they were of the position that people use the term pedophilia incorrectly. Not that the act itself is not wrong

2018-08-16 14:47:32 UTC

Grenade is being fair here.

2018-08-16 14:47:37 UTC

I like that.

2018-08-16 14:47:41 UTC

Well, there's a non-zero number of people who are trying to encourage and/or legalize it.

2018-08-16 14:47:52 UTC

So yes, you can have a stance on it.

2018-08-16 14:48:04 UTC

From what I can tell given previous discussions she is entirely against molestation, but doesn't like people calling it pedophilia because pedophilia can just be a thought crime

2018-08-16 14:48:07 UTC

again how can you even encourage or legalize or ban it, its just a condition

2018-08-16 14:48:14 UTC

Cannibalism exists in nature, does that mean we shouldn't have a stance on it?

2018-08-16 14:48:51 UTC

so, the question: what other aspects, is an attempt at clarification of your position that the term is being used correctly over the possibly more accurate phrase child molestation

2018-08-16 14:49:21 UTC

or rapist

2018-08-16 14:49:31 UTC

which, i would agree, is what most people think of first when they think pedophile. and then add things later that lead up to that, but only after the fact.

2018-08-16 14:49:44 UTC

child rape should be legal, but only by animals

2018-08-16 14:49:49 UTC

I think people do use the term incorrectly, to a degree, which is why it has such a strong connotation to it.

2018-08-16 14:50:10 UTC

Personally I wish that pedophiles could feel safer seeking help from professionals, but it seems near impossible a way to really make that possible without risking normalizing pedophilia

2018-08-16 14:50:16 UTC

nah if the animal rapes a child the animal owner should be held responsible

2018-08-16 14:50:24 UTC

I agree @Schedrevka

2018-08-16 14:50:26 UTC

same

2018-08-16 14:50:27 UTC

I agree with the green bird as well.

2018-08-16 14:50:55 UTC

Owen Benjamin does children NO FAVORS when he says "Guys we can't risk it. You gotta go. Two shots to the back of the head. Helicopter rides. YOU GOTTA GO"

2018-08-16 14:50:56 UTC

Wow gee.

2018-08-16 14:51:04 UTC

Is it any mystery they seek help so inoften.

2018-08-16 14:51:09 UTC

Faggots.

2018-08-16 14:51:14 UTC

the only real assurances you need if you do suffer from pedo tendensies, is the fact that psychologists vowed to not talk about what is said in sessions with them in a way that identifies you

2018-08-16 14:51:21 UTC

Lel

2018-08-16 14:51:23 UTC

I think it's possible for someone to seek help, but with the stigma attached to it (and it evokes a strong negative reaction from most people) I can see why some would choose to just not talk about it at all.

2018-08-16 14:51:23 UTC

if that is not enough, nothing ever will

2018-08-16 14:51:27 UTC

what does it really mean to normalize pedophilia though?

2018-08-16 14:51:37 UTC

Re: things that fall under pedophilia but don't have to involve someone groping a kid? Having nudie pics of children on your computer. Not a grey area

2018-08-16 14:51:42 UTC

I think pedophilia is probably much more common than people think, just like many people have violent fantasies. I mean look at Japan, or look at what happens in the countries where pedophilia is not as demonized. Or look at ancient Rome

2018-08-16 14:51:46 UTC

i mean they literally lose their license when they speak about confedential info from a session

2018-08-16 14:51:50 UTC

Actually I've heard they have to alert the authorities on this issue.

2018-08-16 14:51:51 UTC

Well, you had Salon publish a bunch of articles praising 'virtuous pedophiles'

2018-08-16 14:52:07 UTC

It's part of policy that pedophilia is different from anything else.

2018-08-16 14:52:10 UTC

I believe that they have to if they believe that a crime is imminent or someone's in danger.

2018-08-16 14:52:19 UTC

At least in some areas. I get hazier on the details there.

2018-08-16 14:52:21 UTC

Also we don't have to normalize mental illness for people to get treatment.

2018-08-16 14:52:28 UTC

I could be wrong, though, and it could just be an auto-call to the authorities

2018-08-16 14:52:29 UTC

we might as well talk about normalizing being tall

2018-08-16 14:52:45 UTC

Don't hang out with tall people.

2018-08-16 14:52:48 UTC

They'll make you tall.

2018-08-16 14:52:53 UTC

It's fucked up.

2018-08-16 14:52:54 UTC

The difference being that tall people, as a demographic, are not a danger to children.

2018-08-16 14:53:01 UTC

They get it because they or someone in their life sees it as a problem

2018-08-16 14:53:01 UTC

the only time when a psychologist is allowed to disclose information about a session, is when there is a credible fear of (self) harm

2018-08-16 14:53:09 UTC

But then you get people like the couple who biked across the midle east...
There would be those who would say "yeah I have a virtuous pedophile babysitter to show it's ok"

2018-08-16 14:54:08 UTC

there is a two parts here. I think attraction to what we call children, but are humans that have started to and/or gotten at least half way through puberty is way more common than we care to admit, and may not be an actual disease but an undesirable by-product of when a 15 yo was an adult and having kids. Then there is attraction to those before puberty, which probably is a mental disorder.

2018-08-16 14:54:23 UTC

pedophile is an attribute that describes the psychology of a person, isn't it

2018-08-16 14:54:37 UTC

It evokes a much stronger reaction because children are vulnerable and easily manipulated by adults, so most people would rather just not even risk the prospect of it happening.

2018-08-16 14:54:53 UTC

it seems nonsensical to talk about legalizing or normalizing a neutral fact

2018-08-16 14:55:13 UTC

Yes, the terms ephebophilia and hebephilia can be useful. While NEITHER IS OK I still think there's a hell of a difference in being attracted to a 16 year old vs a 4 year old

2018-08-16 14:55:22 UTC

Agreed

2018-08-16 14:55:49 UTC

there is no issue with people having the desire to rape children, when they act on it is when the problem arises

2018-08-16 14:55:51 UTC

Ephebophilia

2018-08-16 14:55:51 UTC

like i said, it wasn't that long ago in human history that children as young at 14-15 were basically adults and having children

2018-08-16 14:56:06 UTC

Ephebophilia covers 15-19

2018-08-16 14:56:07 UTC

just like all other crimes, thinking about it is A-OK

2018-08-16 14:56:19 UTC

Depending on your state, 3/5 of that is legal.

2018-08-16 14:56:33 UTC

some states and countries have consent laws as low as 13

2018-08-16 14:56:38 UTC

should we legalize schizophrenia?

2018-08-16 14:56:44 UTC

or should we ban it?

2018-08-16 14:56:47 UTC

I wouldn't say it's OK, but having impulses on some level is human

2018-08-16 14:56:50 UTC

I want to legalize memes.

2018-08-16 14:56:53 UTC

in belgium 10 year olds can have sex with other kids up to 12 years old

2018-08-16 14:57:02 UTC

hey i have an idea, how about banning autism

2018-08-16 14:57:04 UTC

I think there are laws and good ideas.

2018-08-16 14:57:04 UTC

and a 2 year difference is allowed till adulthood

2018-08-16 14:57:17 UTC

But Native that'll ban like three quarters of the internet

2018-08-16 14:57:21 UTC

And enforcing age of consent as stringently as we do is trying to turn a good idea into law.

2018-08-16 14:57:23 UTC

females as young as like 10 can get pregnant. usually can't carry to term without major problems

2018-08-16 14:57:24 UTC

political correctness is a de-facto autism ban

2018-08-16 14:57:25 UTC

When that's just not... great.

2018-08-16 14:57:30 UTC

it'll be a fucking ghost town

2018-08-16 14:57:42 UTC

with normies posting fucking Minions memes

2018-08-16 14:58:20 UTC

nah political correctness is a ban on anything non-autistic. only autism allowed.

2018-08-16 14:58:51 UTC

Has anyone drawn a Minion!Tim? That'd be -hilarious-

2018-08-16 14:59:32 UTC

A new marketing strategy to the Facebook crowd

2018-08-16 15:00:00 UTC

It's hard enough for people with a grasp of social ettiquette to navigate the twisting kafkaesque contradictions of political correctness. How could you expect an aspie to do so? Why do you think nerds are one of SJW's biggest enemies?

2018-08-16 15:00:29 UTC

To be fair, not even SJWs can successfully navigate their own PC policies.

2018-08-16 15:00:50 UTC

Otherwise I agree!

2018-08-16 15:00:56 UTC

Nerds are good people.

2018-08-16 15:00:58 UTC

That seems by design at times. Gotta keep them on their toes

2018-08-16 15:01:26 UTC

Like how cult members constantly fear punishment by their own and feel they deserve it

2018-08-16 15:01:36 UTC

When people talk disparagingly about Nice Guys as false and horrible, they're ADDRESSING James Damore types as though he's like any Male Feminist they've ever met.

2018-08-16 15:01:40 UTC

That's *all that is.*

2018-08-16 15:02:08 UTC

James Damore is Linguini from Ratatouille.

2018-08-16 15:02:12 UTC

culture is a cult

2018-08-16 15:02:15 UTC

An awkward but highly kind individual.

2018-08-16 15:02:36 UTC

A shifty bastard has everything to fear from James Damore being in power

2018-08-16 15:02:53 UTC

"Hey wait. What you're doing isn't nice. It isn't nice at all! And I want you to stop."

2018-08-16 15:02:56 UTC

"--YOU DARE?"

2018-08-16 15:03:11 UTC

he has steel balls

2018-08-16 15:03:13 UTC

i like it.

2018-08-16 15:04:25 UTC

nerds: the most picked on group since before the internet

2018-08-16 15:04:38 UTC

I think there's an operational difference between Nice Guys and Male Feminists. Though Male Feminists may just be quasi-successful Nice Guys who haven't broken character yet.

2018-08-16 15:04:53 UTC

Nice and Guy

2018-08-16 15:04:55 UTC

Today I will remind them:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/479666879472992264/gamer.jpg

2018-08-16 15:04:56 UTC

Though they seem to be -really- rapey.

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