https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/16/john-brennan-trump-security-clearance-collusion-russia

Lel

I think it's possible for someone to seek help, but with the stigma attached to it (and it evokes a strong negative reaction from most people) I can see why some would choose to just not talk about it at all.

if that is not enough, nothing ever will

what does it really mean to normalize pedophilia though?

Re: things that fall under pedophilia but don't have to involve someone groping a kid? Having nudie pics of children on your computer. Not a grey area

I think pedophilia is probably much more common than people think, just like many people have violent fantasies. I mean look at Japan, or look at what happens in the countries where pedophilia is not as demonized. Or look at ancient Rome

i mean they literally lose their license when they speak about confedential info from a session

Actually I've heard they have to alert the authorities on this issue.

Well, you had Salon publish a bunch of articles praising 'virtuous pedophiles'

It's part of policy that pedophilia is different from anything else.

I believe that they have to if they believe that a crime is imminent or someone's in danger.

At least in some areas. I get hazier on the details there.

Also we don't have to normalize mental illness for people to get treatment.

I could be wrong, though, and it could just be an auto-call to the authorities

we might as well talk about normalizing being tall

Don't hang out with tall people.

They'll make you tall.

It's fucked up.

The difference being that tall people, as a demographic, are not a danger to children.

They get it because they or someone in their life sees it as a problem

the only time when a psychologist is allowed to disclose information about a session, is when there is a credible fear of (self) harm

But then you get people like the couple who biked across the midle east...
There would be those who would say "yeah I have a virtuous pedophile babysitter to show it's ok"

there is a two parts here. I think attraction to what we call children, but are humans that have started to and/or gotten at least half way through puberty is way more common than we care to admit, and may not be an actual disease but an undesirable by-product of when a 15 yo was an adult and having kids. Then there is attraction to those before puberty, which probably is a mental disorder.

pedophile is an attribute that describes the psychology of a person, isn't it

It evokes a much stronger reaction because children are vulnerable and easily manipulated by adults, so most people would rather just not even risk the prospect of it happening.

it seems nonsensical to talk about legalizing or normalizing a neutral fact

Yes, the terms ephebophilia and hebephilia can be useful. While NEITHER IS OK I still think there's a hell of a difference in being attracted to a 16 year old vs a 4 year old

Agreed

there is no issue with people having the desire to rape children, when they act on it is when the problem arises

Ephebophilia

like i said, it wasn't that long ago in human history that children as young at 14-15 were basically adults and having children

Ephebophilia covers 15-19

just like all other crimes, thinking about it is A-OK

Depending on your state, 3/5 of that is legal.

some states and countries have consent laws as low as 13

should we legalize schizophrenia?

or should we ban it?

I wouldn't say it's OK, but having impulses on some level is human

I want to legalize memes.

in belgium 10 year olds can have sex with other kids up to 12 years old