holy shit.

STICK BY YOUR WORD.

because they have like 100 things going on at once

like not an insult, genuinely asking

I remember my first job, I didn't get hired immediately solely because I was 17. They ended up calling me 6 months later when I was 18.

Stick by your word, holy fucking shit.

cuz if so this line of reasoning makes sense

Say something, and then MEAN IT

Are you people alien pods or what

I do this ALL THE TIME

I say things, and then MEAN THEM and DONT FORGET.

Fuck.

What is with the apologetics for this crap

guess what, you don't go after a job, you are not getting it. You have to keep up on the jobs you want, make sure people remember you are hanging.

No, really. What is it

Fucko.

He said he'd call me.

It was a LIVE INTERVIEW.

guy could say "i will call you and won't forget" then someone fucks up a 500,000 dollar order and they guy is busy for the next month fixing that fuck up

You don't call after an interview where they say THEY'LL call

yeah

my gf had to bug the place she got hired at several times to make sure

went through a few months between interviews

Okay why are they worth working for.

that is just life

because they pay you

What kind of experience are you gleaning from these waterheads?

you are talking to people who are already busy who just found out they are down a person and are trying to both cover that position AND find a new person

I'm guessing you're either young af or genuinely have the autism(another discord I'm in has a bunch so I feel like I'm used to them by now)

because you're extremely unreasonable

Darn.

young without a college degree and disenfranchised like so other many young people when the look at hte job market and see "4 years of college and 10 years experience" for entry leverl @Beef Taquitos

because there was no "how to get a job" class in high school;

because our school system teaches nothing of the real world

That's not quite fair, Grenade.

They also didn't teach taxes in high school.

@Grenade123 No I'm saying like 14yo level of young, grenade

Which to me is way worse.

The truth is, there ARE unrealistic expectations being put on job listings.

or a REALLY sheltered 18 year old maybe

what to you mean not fair? i pulled that stat from an entry level position in my field from less than 3 years ago

``New Hire needed for brand new field of work! Must have 5 years experience in said field!``

Indeed. And those unrealistic expectations do turn away plenty of capable prospective employees.

yep

You guys are saying things I said not 20 minutes ago, but you were disagreeing with me then.

then again, from 2008 to recently, they could find people who had 5 years experience in a related field and would accept entry level.

I didn't disagree with it

@Scribblehatch no, we told you to apply

Not you.

because we know the people making those are being stupid

or are getting little to no applicants with that qualification

Scrib, you've dated before, right? Ever had a list of traits that you had in an ideal partner?

No I haven't.

rip

Then you may not understand this, then.

I stand by my amateur diagnosis.

mm, rather constructive, Beef.

Your amateur diagnosis include two wildly different things, and you'd probably take credit for the middle as well.

Anyway, when they've got those requirements

That's an announcement that there's work that needs to get done.

At the end of the day, those requirements may not be met

But they'll go with someone who's the closest candidate.

As someone who's actually been in a hiring position (kind of)

If it were both then yes I'd take credit for that, as it would be the middle.

"constructive" implies some progress will be made. If I'm right then we aren't capable of doing anything to help. I'm just putting it out there that this may be a battle not worth fighting.

Shaddap.

fite me

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aaanyway...

@Scribblehatch is a soros shill i know it

>virtue-signalling begins

I cAN't prove it but i know it

I used to work for a laundry delivery company.

This company, in particular, delivers by bicycle.

most drug dealers deliver by bike

We'd regularly tow 300 lb loads up hills.

i mean laundry

I don't see what the point of this story is but I'm sure we'll get to it eventually.

When we'd try to hire people, we would put our requirements forward.

>uphill both ways btw

I would've loved to deliver newspapers. No people to deal with. The silence of night. but then I discovered how long the routes are, and how 'okay' the pay is, and I divined that my car would die before I had the capital to replace said car to continue the work.

That was depressing.

Well, the candidates that would come up would INVARIABLY fall short.

And we weren't even asking for college degrees.

(We were asking for specific experience in cycling)

At the end of the day, one of the people we hired was actually a boxer. They dug the job because it was good exercise.

How specific though? Cycling isn't something a lot of people do outside of a hobby

At the end of the day, all we cared about was that the work was getting done.

Any time they're listing credentials on job listings, they're listing the 'ideal'. If you don't meet the requirements, and they don't want to hire you, fuck'em. But if you don't ask, the answer's no anyway. There really isn't any harm.

Which is why an oversaturated labor market is a problem for anyone not very specifically qualified.

People were laughing at me earlier for mention the HR blacklists.

Fuck **all of you** who did that.

They aren't the tooth fairy. They exist.

In Tech, sure.

If you apply to the wrong employer without the qualifications, they'll put you on one.

I don't believe that for a second.

We laughed at you because you said you were going to get blacklisted for sending a resume in

... Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. And what has happened to people.