The reason gaming fought back where others rolled over was because it was heavily male and was capable of self-organization and technically sophisticated enough to launch a new style of culture war.

Considering how close of an election it was I think that's as fair as pointing towards most things

Gaming was and is a perfect storm.

The troll wars

it was certainly the right demographic

Gaming is also a very meritocratic hobby

@Scribblehatch Actually, in a recent report it was discovered that most trump voters were people offline

I mean, GG was calling advertisers. And I have no doubt 4chan was employing bots at one point or another.

pen and paper and literature arent even worth invading because of the low point of entry and the ease with which people can discard your work

their invasions there have been ultimately fruitless

Gamergate was the disgusting taste of medicine.

Gaming has unique communication channels.

People complain about gamers gatekeeping, but all you need to do to open the gate is git gud

vidya is a bigger prize because it's hard to make

Like Discord.

No healing yet. Just disgusting putrid taste.

Gamers are a natural community

Unlike, say, whovians.

As cringy as it sounds, gamers were literally the last stand against social justice

Y'know what group is great? Star-bellied Sneetches.

The FGC has to meet in person. MMOs and FPS fans have teamchats and servers.

Meritocracy is one of the epitomes of human innovation. Gaming is one of the most objective meritocracies to exist.

@Deleted User, and unfortunately, I think it's largely over at this point.

Sneetches without stars upon thars can go *suck a dick.*

Social Justice controls the channels.

GG didnt work because of vidya, GG worked because there was push back on the same level, ultimately

Never thought of that. There's no human error in who won a video game.

@pratel I highly doubt it.

people went after advertisers, exposed and severed networks of collusion

documented *everything*

I think it's great how obscure Anita has become. 😎

I think it's just a momentary regroup right now

@Scribblehatch Not obscure enough

@Deleted User I pray you are correct. But I suspect that the fire is basically dead and GG and Social Justice pushback consists more of people hiding their faces and complaining online.

The fact that you just mentioned her name means she can still become more obscure

what undid Anita was the fact that she's apparently quite a terrible person

Only because so much memory real estate was spent on her at one point.

according to people who know her in meatspace

There's nothing powerful enough to really force a reckoning. And Trump will be term-limited if nothing else.

Also it wasn't exactly the first shot fired in the culture war; it was the first battle, but there had been previous massacres like atheism+

Well of COURSE she's a terrible person.

You pretty much have to be, to make a career off what she was doing.

You mean lying?

Well, yeah.

@pratel Think about the gaming industry now, how organizations like GOG and Steam have rejected censorship, and how the indie scene is getting more successful than AAA

"DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO."

Gamergate was successful

Ever known someone like that? Freqeuently human garbage.

GoG shouldnt have cucked out over that Postal 2 pic

The fruits have only ripened now

@Deleted User The issue is that you have to convince people to drop social justice. I suspect it's largely just moving around.

"It takes 10 years to build a nation"

GG was the first pushback

nah, it was just the largest of the first pushbacks

3 years ago we couldn't be having this conversation.

A+ happened prior

Social Justice won't be defeated until the relevant persons and institutions within the academies and companies are knocked out.

and that was fucking hilarious

GG was exactly what alinsky wanted the commies to do

Lol

it was yeah

People would take to twitter with screencaps of us being nice to Gamergate, and trying to blackball us and ruin our lives.

I missed A+

Just one little weasel in here would've done it.

except for opticscucks

It was smaller in scale, and didn't make the news I followed at the time

That's why I said GG was the first pushback

@Deleted User I think we should keep it up 😉

Atheism + is cancer dude

It was the first one to make worldwide news

Oh, Atheism+

Have you guys seen what skepticon is like now

Like I said before, if GG was the first battle A+ was a massacre

I've been around academia for awhile. A+ was far from the first battle.

the goal shouldnt have been to defend the image of GG, the goal should have been to tear down the opposition. Disinfectant via UV

^

I wanna pull Shives' beard off like a bandaid.

Offense >>> defense.

The unfortunate reality in the modern culture war.

Attack and destroy institutions.

It's why Media Matters is so dead set on boycotting Fox News.

Attack their munitions, and don't hand them any.

Easier said than done. GG was reported to have cost 7 figures of Gawker

yeah that was the successful half

But then the industry as a whole shifted.

the not successful half was the "GG dindu nuffin" half

Engaging in identity politics, in the way that the alt right does, is the equivalent of handing them a steady stream of ammunition crates.

Heard what's happening with The Escapist?

It's like what are you DOING.

Oh uh.. Movie Bob? lol

what's goin on with them now?

New idiot in charge thinks the Escapist is a far right haven

The only part of The Escapist I follow is Yahtzee

Macris was a baller, and then Escapist cucked out

@Scribblehatch can you explain how we're engaging in identity politics on this issue?

By allowing users to discuss

...

Pratel did you admit to being alt right?

Yeah he made a statement that he was removing politics from Escapist, and later clarified that he was removing the 'alt right bent'

The Escapist has been bought out and is getting reformed from some rather Social Justice types.