The 60s radicals moved into academic posts and subverted it over the next several decades.

Yes I know of Yuri's speeches.

But they were always a low flame

This isn't a Yuri Brezhnev thing. This was a "the left hired the radical left to teach" thing.

It's the recession that handed them all these dry leaves.

FWOOSH

No. They had won by the end of the 90s.

But it was still confined to the academies.

You should read up on the 90s culture wars within the academies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tFbZ5kaY8

Trust me.

I know.

It took another 15 years to take hold from there, because that's about the amount of time it takes to train a new generation.

(That skit is from the 90s)

I am aware.

as always its a bit more nuanced. I think you're looking for a boogieman that is just part of a cycle.. for a million reasons, how the boomers raised their children, how world affairs became so visible, how the education system was coopted, etc

How the news has misled people...

You're here of all places, and calling it a boogieman?

lol I knew that link was the kids in the hall one without even having to click it. awesome

Are you off your nut, sir.

But *The Closing of the American Mind* was written in 1987.

And it was the point when it was evident enough to the senior faculty to discuss it.

What are you goys talking about

Life of Brian informs everyone how long this stuff has been around, but it wouldn't have gotten its megaphone without the recession where the bankers didn't budge an inch.

I'm here, of all places? Are you saying Tim's server is a conspiracy hut?

Who is

No, it would have come to the open sooner or later.

Who is you

It was a matter of the rates of production and hitting critical mass.

scribbles is first rate

Reminds me of that scene in Se7en where the cop is saying "We would've caught you eventually"

Oh really. Would they.

What's in the box?

@Deleted User Brezhnev? Not sure who you are referring to

Zero said someone said this server is a conspiracy hut

@Scribblehatch are you claiming that had there not been a recession there wouldn't have been a surge in social justice?

Social justice didn't surge from recession

I can say with certainty that you haven't misrepresented my position.

Social justice happened through academia

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.

nah they didn't say it directly, but it was implied

I think Social "Justice" surged from the news coverage

Academia needs a constant stream of disaffected youths.

All their shit was made up in the 60s

I think it was just critical mass.

Academia helped push it, but the media thrust it into the limelight

And it was made by academics

And nothing could've done it quite like that fucking miserable and embarrassing recession.

The students got into journalism

And we got social justice media

@Revan No, social justice academic pride themselves on activism. They **wanted** to be noticed and were going to at some point.

It got far worse when Obama didn't punish them after he got in.

These are people that block off freeways and stuff.

Obama was the catalyst

Obama was not--

They would have done it at some point, but the media were the ones who enabled it to become part of the limelight

Grghsf...

Obama was actually a catalyst. He pushed laws that pushed it forward in government for example.

If the media hadn't covered it, it would barely be a thing even today

That's not true at all.

The Social Justice activists were going to disrupt as much as needed to get covered.

@Revanthe media is full of students of these professors

I'm just glad Gamergate happened. The first time SJWs lost at **anything** they were trying to do.

It's the same thing with Antifa. If the media hadn't covered them, nobody would have protested, because they would have made no impact

And the students believed what they did regardless of the press.

They were unstoppable until then.

Nobody would know

People apologizing left and right..

Gamergate kicked off the opposition no social justice

I don't think it can be blamed on any one thing, and trying to do so is missing the forest for the trees

Gamergate was a small part of a much larger pushback.

It was the ONLY part at the time.

The only organized part.

Yea

Everyone else was a pathetic wussbucket.

Look at the nearly simultaneous emergence of Haidt and Heterodox academy about the same time.

Quote me on that

it was certainly the catalyst for many who would have otherwise remained apolitical

People on 4chan, the conservatives who went with them

Gamergate, at the time was the only collective that WASN'T A PATHETIC WUSSBUCKET.

Everyone else fucking embarrassed me to be an earthling.

Pure weakness.

People like Milo yiannapoulos

And Sargon

Gamergate was the element that was willing to break norms to go on the offense.

And attacked the press directly.

Praaaaaaise jaysus. 🙏

but the pushback would have happened eventually. they would have gone after some other form of beloved pastime.

You'll notice the attack chopper copypasta emerged about the same time.

Yes, eventually.

And who knows what else we'd have lost on the interim.

@angeryer what else is there

There's a reason so many journos still talk about a post-GG era as though it was fucking 9/11 or something

They're into books, movies, TV

I agree with Shiv.

Board games, Card games

The only thing left was Video games

Actually, it's not too far off to suggest Hillary may have won without gamergate.

God help them if they force female Space Marines.

Or maybe Trump would've won harder. Who can say.