@Scribblehatch that is the most ridiculous accusation I've heard in awhile.

I'm asking what identity you are accusing me of adopting and playing.

Read what you said to me.

Or whomever else you're going after.

Is that going to effect Yahtzee at all?

And quote what you were responding to.

@Scribblehatch "Offense >>> defense."

I was elaborating on the ^

Right..?

You keyed in whatever you were saying at the same time I did.

pratel, Scribblehatch said that the alt-right engages in identity politics, and then you said "can you explain how *we're* engaging in identity politics on this issue"

emphasis mine

I think that's what he's getting at

also reminder for everyone who doesn't know that you can say '!gamer' in the bot commands channel to access the super secret gamer channels

It's possible, however, that this was just unfortunate timing

Oh. I misread what he said. Yeah, there's too much chatter at once right now.

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I saw a "you" in there.

I thought he was accusing the board.

Yeah, I agree. the alt-right is sabatoging themselves.

Scribble said: "It's like what are you DOING."

I think that's where I saw the accusation to the board.

I wouldn't say that they're sabotaging themselves when that's what they WANT

They're just using the SJW idpol as a convenient recruitment tool

Anyone who joins them to fight fire with fire is an idiot who's sabotaging themselves for sure though

Since I'm not part of the far left or the alt-right, I can't speak for whatever they're actually thinking, but I think that the alt-right started saying these things because it was okay for the far left to say similar things, albeit on the other side of the spectrum

Sure. IDPol without intersectionality to control the competing groups is self-marginalizing be nature however.

The alt-right and social justice are feeding each other.

I don't think they thought all that far ahead

Personally, I think it's actually simpler than that. Social Justice breaks everyone into racial groups.

Ergo: people are primed to think in racial groups.

These are the people who would be SJWs *if* they had institutional support. If there was a 'white studies department' they'd be the core constituency.

I'm sure some of the SJW idols realize that, but don't care since it furthers their agenda

It's more than that. It's a unifying demon.

Unifying for those that believe in it, maybe

"religion may not have a god, but it must have a devil"

For everybody else it's a dividing demon

Thanks to the extremely left-leaning media, for example, I can no longer speak with my brother about even mundane politics

He refuses to even converse with me on it

Yeah Scientology has Xenu but no counter-Xenu

Yeah. People don't want to admit it, but the fact is that everyone who's not a far-left social justice socialist is currently outside the overton window.

They've been extremely successful at narrowing the discourse.

*overton window defined as being able to openly discuss without fear of consequences

It should be noted intersectionality was adopted as a practical measure.

I couldn't believe the balls of Dyson during that Peterson debate.

Alot of common stuff is labeled alt right

Stephen Fry was there too. And some.. lady.

I remember like 7-8 years ago saying something on facebook about tax cuts and getting mobbed. Surprised the hell out of me.

THe peterson and stephen fry vs two journo chumps?

"Why the rage BRUH?" Oh go hang yourself you AAAAAASSSSS.

Cause reducing taxes means you are greedy for wanting to keep more of what you earn

And well, they can say, but that money would have went to the poor

@Atkins Exactly! I still remember the first time was talking about tariffs from a strictly economical point of view (taking the side that tariffs are bad, even) and still got called a racist for not condemning them hard enough.

In an ideal world, it would have

Unfortunately, our world is far from ideal

It was insane. the Students most into social justice literally can't even understand things like comparative advatage. And this was at a leading Ivy for finance.

It's terrifying.

The platform was dead to me after that. If I couldn't say something so boring and mundane without creating an incident what good was it?

A lot of the tax money people think would go to the poor would be better spent donating to charities directly

@Atkins I know the feeling. I think I've been blocked from most people who might follow me.

Thing is all these people dont want to donate but want the feeling of moral superiority from asking another to do so

Twitter's no different. Though I guess it's nearly completely cloven into two separate spheres at this point with blocklists.

Like for example, conservatives donate more often than liberals.

My personal theory is that twitter has always been the worst of all of them.

And the smaller numbers add up more. OF course the left responds by saying donating to churches dont count

Never a positive thing from it.

@Atkins That reminds me of one time during college I asked on FB why people still celebrated 9/11 (10 years after the fact) and one of my "friends" said that was the least patriotic thing they'd read in their life and that I should be ashamed.

I was just asking a question

and I was attacked for it

Retards everywhere man. In this day and age, anything is "concern trolling"

I hate the concept of concern trolling so much.

I remember first hearing that term when Razorfist replied to me.

I said his Mad Max review was being ruined by political commentary

And he says I'm concern trolling.

Fuckin'... what?

Today is actually the first I've heard that term

Should I consider myself lucky?

Thankfully I have recently learned of the term 'whataboutism' so I am now allowed to be an unabashed hypocrite.

"This is all fine and dandy but.."

Yeah, but next thing you know "whatifism" will be a thing

"That cant surely be that bad"

I actually kinda like concern trolling.

It's a highly effective tactic for disruption.

"What if Hillary had won?" "OH BUT THAT'S A WHATIFISM"

"whataboutism" is meant to kill a specific kind of stalling tactic though

I saw a comment on TD, some guy went on politics and say, why cant we praise the 5% of what Trump does? Instead of condemning the whole lot

Concern trolling is the kind of thing that should be out of bounds, but if used properly it *destroys* communities.

COncenrn trolling

usually used by commies who dont want to admit that their ideology is responsible for butchering millions

Personally what irritates me is ShareBlue.

So stuff like its not real communism

no

stuff like "what about all the bad things the US does?"

I'd love so much to see someone take ShareBlue down.

who the fuck is shareblue?

Call it what it is, pratel. Correct The Record

You mean ShariaBlue

Hoooo boy. You're in for a lesson.

Don't you know that manipulating public forums for your political gain is alright as long as it's done by an american group?

Have they anything to show for their money?

Hllary funded a shill op

Beemann, ShareBlue is the rebranded Correct the Record

Share Blue (formerly Correct the Record) is a astroturfing organization with millions of dollars in budget.

Under a different name

David Brock's organization.

**"In December 2017, Shareblue announced a partnership with SiriusXM Progress"**