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2018-10-27 04:22:54 UTC

neural networks?

2018-10-27 04:22:57 UTC

No... but I think they should be taught like us.

2018-10-27 04:22:58 UTC

i dunno if ill go as far as to say killed, but i hear ya lady, hot words

2018-10-27 04:22:59 UTC

or tensorflow?

2018-10-27 04:23:11 UTC

It limits them, but makes it easier for them to relate to us.

2018-10-27 04:23:17 UTC

It's very interesting. It's not so hard to understand.

2018-10-27 04:23:44 UTC

I have been writing code with neural networks.

2018-10-27 04:23:50 UTC

I programmed my own style transfer for images.

2018-10-27 04:24:04 UTC

You get what I'm saying though.

2018-10-27 04:24:08 UTC

Also, you can do compression very efficiently.

2018-10-27 04:24:21 UTC

How could they relate to us or care about us if they have nothing to relate to us.

2018-10-27 04:24:29 UTC

You basically train the neural network on your input data and it can compress some images better than currently best algorithsm.

2018-10-27 04:24:35 UTC

Being efficient and fast usually isn't the best way to do things.

2018-10-27 04:24:35 UTC

how does one person relate to another?

2018-10-27 04:24:40 UTC

I don't know.

2018-10-27 04:24:42 UTC

Through experiences.

2018-10-27 04:24:46 UTC

I have no clue how that would happen.

2018-10-27 04:24:48 UTC

People relate to each other through experiences.

2018-10-27 04:24:54 UTC

I am not even sure it can happen without evolution.

2018-10-27 04:25:08 UTC

@Paradox interesting question to ask a bunch of people on a discord server

2018-10-27 04:25:09 UTC

Oh and.

2018-10-27 04:25:11 UTC

Daily reminder.

2018-10-27 04:25:13 UTC

almost an oxymoron

2018-10-27 04:25:14 UTC

Jim Metokur failed.

2018-10-27 04:25:15 UTC

The more people interact, the better they can relate and understand each other.

2018-10-27 04:25:16 UTC

Even if we just programmed a dog AI, that would be a huge leap forward. It would be amazing - but we would never know, because it can't speak english.

2018-10-27 04:25:20 UTC

really? experiences? shared ones or just imagining simlar ones?

2018-10-27 04:25:35 UTC

Iโ€™m thinking about sticking something in my pee pee hole

2018-10-27 04:25:43 UTC

A dog AI would just sit there and wouldn't know how to use a keyboard, but it would be a nobel prize like achievement, just to get to mammalian intelligence.

2018-10-27 04:26:04 UTC

We are looking at Artificial intelligence on our level in the next 30 years.

2018-10-27 04:26:08 UTC

These are questions we got to look at.

2018-10-27 04:26:17 UTC

Great more NPCs

2018-10-27 04:26:22 UTC

What is the best way to teach AI... programming or through experiences?

2018-10-27 04:26:26 UTC

We are the result of our evolution. For an AI to be completely human like, it would probably have to have all the evolved parts hardcoded.

2018-10-27 04:26:34 UTC

Experience.

2018-10-27 04:26:39 UTC

It's the only way we know how.

2018-10-27 04:26:45 UTC

I think that is the best way undead.

2018-10-27 04:26:52 UTC

Shared experiences.

2018-10-27 04:26:54 UTC

Interactions.

2018-10-27 04:26:57 UTC

Neural networks like the Google Brain image recognition usually works on huge data training sets.

2018-10-27 04:26:58 UTC

With humans.

2018-10-27 04:27:06 UTC

experience requires programming

2018-10-27 04:27:19 UTC

Paradox, you are looking at the fast and simple way.

2018-10-27 04:27:19 UTC

Wasnโ€™t google putting ais in phases of different actions they needed to complete

2018-10-27 04:27:21 UTC

programming requires experience

2018-10-27 04:27:24 UTC
2018-10-27 04:27:26 UTC

There needs to be a slow down in experiencing and learning.

2018-10-27 04:27:30 UTC

no, i am questioning, because that's what i do

2018-10-27 04:27:33 UTC

The faster you experience things, the less you care about what you learned.

2018-10-27 04:27:49 UTC

We don't really know how to make AI "care".

2018-10-27 04:27:59 UTC

i dont believe AI will

2018-10-27 04:27:59 UTC

It's more of a statistical process right now.

2018-10-27 04:28:09 UTC

like even a little

2018-10-27 04:28:11 UTC

you guys are trying to apply human aspects onto an AI, without even understanding the human aspects

2018-10-27 04:28:13 UTC

Neural networks are kind of like stochastic filters.

2018-10-27 04:28:18 UTC

I want to see if an AI will figure out how to give me a rub and tug

2018-10-27 04:28:22 UTC

@Paradox thank you

2018-10-27 04:28:24 UTC

it's like, MMkay. gl

2018-10-27 04:28:25 UTC

Caring = Sympathetic understanding of shared experience.

2018-10-27 04:28:51 UTC

It learns by doing something like statistical analysis. For example, in order to recognize chairs, you will have to feed it hundreds of chair images and eventually it recognizes the relative distribution of key features.

2018-10-27 04:28:55 UTC

It would be better to have a human aspect in AI, then a AI with no human aspect at all.

2018-10-27 04:29:04 UTC

great, what's that mean?

2018-10-27 04:29:13 UTC

start there

2018-10-27 04:29:14 UTC

But, the amazing thing is that a child can learn what a chair is just by seeing one or two chairs.

2018-10-27 04:29:25 UTC

BULLSHIT

2018-10-27 04:29:30 UTC

That it could be compassion, sympathetic, and understanding to our wants, needs, and feelings.

2018-10-27 04:29:35 UTC

Chairs are incredible.

2018-10-27 04:29:40 UTC

Currently, the brain of a four year old is more advanced than the best AI.

2018-10-27 04:29:40 UTC

Beyond a child's comprehension.

2018-10-27 04:29:44 UTC

im none of those things to you

2018-10-27 04:29:49 UTC

am I human?

2018-10-27 04:29:54 UTC

negative

2018-10-27 04:29:56 UTC

It won't see us as objects to use....

2018-10-27 04:29:56 UTC

You know that video of the jerking off robot

2018-10-27 04:29:57 UTC

you are a meat popcicle

2018-10-27 04:30:02 UTC

But its angle was too high

2018-10-27 04:30:08 UTC

Thatโ€™s funny

2018-10-27 04:30:08 UTC

Even the Google AI still needs hundreds of images to recognize objects reliably.

2018-10-27 04:30:16 UTC

But if you show a child two chairs and then a beanbag chair afterwards can it identify the beanbag chair as a chair?

2018-10-27 04:30:17 UTC

Im a yeet popsicle

2018-10-27 04:30:33 UTC

is a chair a chair if you don't sit on it?

2018-10-27 04:30:43 UTC

Here is a tutorial:

2018-10-27 04:30:43 UTC

AI needs to understand context.

2018-10-27 04:30:59 UTC

@Paradox they are usually just clothes hangers in my house

2018-10-27 04:31:01 UTC

This is a neural network for basic classification tasks.

2018-10-27 04:31:05 UTC

Currently... AI can't understand context.

2018-10-27 04:31:21 UTC

It depends on what you mean by context.

2018-10-27 04:31:24 UTC

AI? even people can't

2018-10-27 04:31:26 UTC

and AI

2018-10-27 04:31:32 UTC

because we still arent there yet

2018-10-27 04:31:36 UTC

period

2018-10-27 04:31:37 UTC

Context of words, context of situation, context of action..

2018-10-27 04:31:41 UTC

It's easy to mess up current AIs by placing very weird objects together, but it understands "visual context".

2018-10-27 04:31:45 UTC

Context of conversation.

2018-10-27 04:31:55 UTC

For example, it can recognize bikes of different kinds, in different backgrounds.

2018-10-27 04:31:55 UTC

what i am saying, when the people don't understand themselves, how can they hope to reproduce it

2018-10-27 04:32:15 UTC

Yes, a proper AI would need human flaws.

2018-10-27 04:32:17 UTC

I think we need to slow down on AI development..... we only got once chance to get it right.

2018-10-27 04:32:28 UTC

Everything Is a chair

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