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2018-10-27 04:15:30 UTC

For example, today's AIs work pretty much like that.

2018-10-27 04:15:38 UTC

You hard code your goal states, what is good and bad.

2018-10-27 04:15:44 UTC

Actually think about it... AI would be taught, not programmed.

2018-10-27 04:15:51 UTC

And then neurel networks try to optimize the good and minimize the bad.

2018-10-27 04:15:52 UTC

Dusty you just want a robot you can bang lol

2018-10-27 04:15:56 UTC

It is hard to program something that translate to real world.

2018-10-27 04:15:58 UTC

In a way that is how lifeforms are working.

2018-10-27 04:15:59 UTC

Reminds me. There was this game that gave all ais a random fear and like

2018-10-27 04:16:00 UTC

I can show you.

2018-10-27 04:16:03 UTC

They would be taught faster than us...

2018-10-27 04:16:07 UTC

what's the difference between being taught and programmed?

2018-10-27 04:16:12 UTC

But they would be taught the same way as us.

2018-10-27 04:16:13 UTC

Supposedly to give them a weakness

2018-10-27 04:16:15 UTC

This is an AI playing Mario:

2018-10-27 04:16:26 UTC

Good video

2018-10-27 04:16:29 UTC

It figures out how to play mario because you tell it what is good and bad.

2018-10-27 04:16:32 UTC

once it gains sentience, it will learn on its own

2018-10-27 04:16:35 UTC

Programmed can end up with errors....

2018-10-27 04:16:40 UTC

and faster than you can understand

2018-10-27 04:16:40 UTC

Being taught allows for them to learn as they go.

2018-10-27 04:16:44 UTC

Dying is bad = pain. Getting further right is good = pleasure

2018-10-27 04:16:44 UTC

and will outpace us all

2018-10-27 04:16:46 UTC

The goods and bads.

2018-10-27 04:16:46 UTC

on day 2

2018-10-27 04:16:55 UTC

Look how computers behave today...

2018-10-27 04:16:55 UTC

Honestly though a ai is only gonna make shit efficient

2018-10-27 04:16:57 UTC

and on day 3

2018-10-27 04:17:00 UTC

overlords

2018-10-27 04:17:00 UTC

Not invent shit

2018-10-27 04:17:03 UTC

You have to program in some motivation. Motivation does not automatically follow from "intelligence"

2018-10-27 04:17:16 UTC

Give an ai a rock and they will figure out the best way to use it

2018-10-27 04:17:16 UTC

Our motivation = pain/pleasure

2018-10-27 04:17:35 UTC

if you did not feel hungry, you would forget to eat

2018-10-27 04:17:36 UTC

Best way to use it without any morals.

2018-10-27 04:17:44 UTC

hungry feels bad

2018-10-27 04:17:52 UTC

Sometimes the best way for them, would be removing all obsticles.

2018-10-27 04:18:00 UTC

Like say cure all hunger...

2018-10-27 04:18:00 UTC

Hungry not bad.

2018-10-27 04:18:03 UTC

ORANGE MAN BAD

2018-10-27 04:18:04 UTC

They would wipe out humans.

2018-10-27 04:18:05 UTC

<:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-27 04:18:07 UTC

No more hunger.

2018-10-27 04:18:12 UTC

ORANGE MAN BAD

2018-10-27 04:18:18 UTC

We need to teach them passion, understanding, and reason.

2018-10-27 04:18:21 UTC

NPC's goal state is orange man bad.

2018-10-27 04:18:21 UTC

orange man make tang?

2018-10-27 04:18:24 UTC

We need to teach them what is good and what is bad.

2018-10-27 04:18:31 UTC

Those are things that need to be taught and experienced.

2018-10-27 04:18:32 UTC

ya, when you label it pain/pleasure, it seems like you are talking about physical pain and pleasure. You can have emotional satisfaction (pleasure) with thoughts.

2018-10-27 04:18:37 UTC

Yes, you would need to be able to program pain and pleasure into an AI>

2018-10-27 04:18:47 UTC

Precisely speaking, every life form needs these equivalents.

2018-10-27 04:18:55 UTC

some are just hoping for the pleasure side of things

2018-10-27 04:19:00 UTC

even insects that cannot feel pain have incentivizing neurons and inhibiting neurons

2018-10-27 04:19:02 UTC

I could care less for pleasure.

2018-10-27 04:19:07 UTC

un huh

2018-10-27 04:19:07 UTC

They replace pain and pleasure.

2018-10-27 04:19:08 UTC

they're actually the same thing

2018-10-27 04:19:12 UTC

I rather see things in teaching them to think like humans.

2018-10-27 04:19:15 UTC

For example, the way neurons work for moths:

2018-10-27 04:19:24 UTC

pleasure is pain, just to a smaller degree

2018-10-27 04:19:30 UTC

Some neurons will raise an electrical potential from the vision nerves

2018-10-27 04:19:31 UTC

you wont need to teach them shit

2018-10-27 04:19:33 UTC

is the thing

2018-10-27 04:19:34 UTC

Humans are predictable, easier to control at times.

2018-10-27 04:19:35 UTC

its a computer

2018-10-27 04:19:41 UTC

then, other neurons will fire and angel the moth towads the lamp

2018-10-27 04:19:43 UTC

it will learn all you know in 2 seconds

2018-10-27 04:19:50 UTC

you can also mess up those neurons, which we did in our university

2018-10-27 04:19:51 UTC

and all everyone else knows in a day

2018-10-27 04:19:55 UTC

While a AI without any emotions or cares, they could commit genocide without blinking a AI eyelid.

2018-10-27 04:20:16 UTC

BUt in the end, we are all driven by goal states, and incentivizing and disincentevizing impulses

2018-10-27 04:20:29 UTC

They are not a result of pure intellgence though - evolution hardcoded them

2018-10-27 04:20:53 UTC

they are close to hand in hand, but maybe not toally

2018-10-27 04:21:04 UTC

For example, observe how amoebas navigate.

2018-10-27 04:21:24 UTC

It would be more comfortable for humans if AI's learn like us.

2018-10-27 04:21:25 UTC

kids being programmed

2018-10-27 04:21:37 UTC

They came to class like us.

2018-10-27 04:21:37 UTC

There's a level of cowardice that should be tantamount to treason.

2018-10-27 04:21:39 UTC

or taught? I forget, what was teh dif?

2018-10-27 04:21:40 UTC

And this is it.

2018-10-27 04:21:42 UTC

I want hangings.

2018-10-27 04:21:50 UTC

Yes.

2018-10-27 04:21:56 UTC

for what scribs?

2018-10-27 04:21:57 UTC

Cowardice is what let most of this happen.

2018-10-27 04:22:01 UTC

For **this.**

2018-10-27 04:22:04 UTC

This is unacceptable.

2018-10-27 04:22:07 UTC

oh shit

2018-10-27 04:22:09 UTC

I know many who won't speak up and know what's going on. They are afraid.

2018-10-27 04:22:09 UTC

not that

2018-10-27 04:22:15 UTC

oooh that

2018-10-27 04:22:18 UTC

gotcha

2018-10-27 04:22:22 UTC

ya that is some bullshit

2018-10-27 04:22:31 UTC

Doing this to your own country.

2018-10-27 04:22:34 UTC

Destroys more than just you.

2018-10-27 04:22:37 UTC

You should be killed.

2018-10-27 04:22:41 UTC

Has anyone of you programmed any AI-like things?

2018-10-27 04:22:53 UTC

nope

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