or just insane, or maybe both...

think about it, youtubers are becoming the modern celebrities.

well nobody wants that,

if it can't be controlled it must be squashed.

i think you are giving youtubers too much credit

id give more credit to people like you

I would say video games were getting the chance, but they've been hindered by their Hollywood envy

^

my point is that the structure is becoming more decentralized. that's creating panic, not only in industry but in government. Which is why you have things like internet censorship starting to take the forefront. It must be controlled or squashed.

"we don't want a homogeneous culture"

oh i see, 20 different cultures will totally lead to a strong nation when not a single one calls themselves American....

a strong 3rd world nation

Think this a good saying? You can tell a thousand lies, but they will never be able overwhelm truth.

keep us all so busy trying to feed ourselves, we don't notice the leashes.

holy shit

https://twitter.com/lgbtqgold/status/1039035398331281408

@Timcast TIM!!

Gulag!

i understand what tim was trying to say, but his "strength" has a big built in assumption: that everyone wants the same thing solved.

Gulag alert!

https://archive.is/LtCWR

>wall with different shaped holes

and why sending a bigot to one is actually a compassionate, non-violent course of action...

...How does the left turn everything Russian?

because the real russian collusion is with the left

You'd think they'd want to be Russia 😉

oh, he made a vid, that's what u guys are talking about.

ya, definitely a disagree with him, but only because he hasn't completely thought the idea through. It's like a house with many rooms, more rooms is fine and dandy and good, but it has to be built on a solid foundation.

and in the same house

gonna have problems if someone from a different house says one of your rooms is actually part of their house

There's a lot of potential for conflating race and culture when talking about the diversity argument.

well that just complicates my simile

I don't think there's much room for argument against diversity of genes (maybe excepting genes predisposing people to diseease).

i'm taking diversity to the most general definition.

But certain cultures have really shitty ideas that out to be shitcanned.

even if you both are talking about culture, there is a line between enjoying mexican food on some nights and making a part of town that speaks only Spanish and calls everyone white dirty Americans.

Is it a good idea to embrace pederasty because it's part of different cultures?

having a section of a city that is under sharia law is not a strong city. but forcing everyone to be Christian isn't a strength either.

Imagine if you have a goal, the goal is to win a math competition. One team has nothing but mathematicians. The other team has a cook, a carpenter, a telemarketer, a pizza delivery man, etc. Who do you think is more likely to reach the goal?

there needs to be something unifying. otherwise it doesn't matter if you have someone who can fit in the hole if they refuse to go through the hole

exactly. in genetics, the unifying force is life.

Tucker's argument wasn't that everyone needs to be the same; Tucker's argument was that there needs to be some common basis around which a functional society can be formed. Some minimum agreed upon cultural norms.

everyone in a country should at least speak 1 language. you can speak more but everyone needs to speak 1.

for example

well, i would say the goal changes and that's what I asked earlier. mentioning chaos in a box. What's the box?

In western cultures that is generally democratic participation in governance, separation of church and state, assumption of innocence, unbiased disinterested courts, rule-of-law, etc

Sharia law, for example, is fundamentally incompatible with western civilization.

an emphasis on individual rights too?

Not sure that's really the case anymore...and that's where ppl have a problem with diversity.

the west isn't very western currently

its like post-western

they don't know what the box is, what the goal is, what the foundation is. Diversity can only be a strength when there is a commonality.

in his genetic example. Change the species, you have a cat and a dog. Is that diversity a strength?

do we need people who are diseased and dying? is that a strength? i mean, you are not diverse if you don't have failed genes along with surviving ones

If we want to continue the analogy of genetic diversity, eventually you get to the point where there is so much diversity within a gene pool that speciation happens and interbreeding stops being possible.

So, like I said. I agree diversity can be a strenght, but I disagree that it must be.

Agreed.

legal immigration is a way of ensuring diversity that is a strength

but thats wasict

ok, ima watch the rest now, maybe he covers these points in what i haven't watched.

then again, its racist to say you don't want your daughter to be raped if the local rape gang is known to be muslim

and i mean known...to the police known.

if you're still watching the Tucker video, I think that's most of the point Tim made.

Are you in the UK, Grenade123?

his fault is assuming that Tucker wasn't making the same point

and no, why?

Oh, that comment about the rape gang known to the police sounds like something people talk about concerning the UK.

This is perhaps another formulation of the paradox of tolerance.

i watch sargon

lol

Ah, ok.

but that was more or less the joke

saying you are afraid of your daughter being raped becomes racist and therefore "bad" if the perp is Muslim. which is ridiculous .

What's going on the UK is bonkers. Somewhere they went off the god damn rails.

when you are so afraid of being called racist, you stop going after criminals, you have lost your way

So @Timcast brings up the difference between legitimate and illegitimate authority in his banned books video today. I'd like you to reconsider the anarchist position on authority, Tim -- because even by your definition you acknowledge that authority is not something held by a person over another, but rather a deferment by a person to another they think is authoritative.

well if you think that law is our commonality, I would agree.

a lack of enforcement...we can no longer breed.

we are too diverse. cat and a dog.

Using your argument, anyone can say "I'm a doctor, put your hands on that wound" whether they're a doctor or not. Anyone can put on a uniform and say they're a police officer and "enforce" frozen zones.

That doesn't mean authority exists, it means people are deferring to someone they perceive as authority. It's no different than faith. People can have faith, but that does not objectively assert the existence of God -- it only subjectively asserts the deferment to God in that person's mind.

this vid popped up on my youtube frontpage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLrmORuW9qM

But even the idea of diversity is too diverse to properly quantify. It includes far too many factors just to say that you need more "diversity".

i don't watch youtube anymore, if i can help it.

u must watch jootube

Race? Skin color? Income? Wealth? Family? Relationships? Geographical location? You can't take everything into account all of the time.

Are different kinds of courts and legal systems within the same country "diversity of thought"?

generally we take it case by case.

for example. when someone breaks the law...

What about in France where some McDonalds franchise owners put up signs saying "no women allowed". It's not all McDonald's. You can just go to another. Is that diversity?

it's diversity amongst mcdonalds.

some allow, some don't, that is diversity.

Just make us fat McDonald’s please

Diversity of law breaking. White collar crime. Violent crime. Nonviolent crime. Drug crime. Miscegenation. Slavery. And it goes on...

this is why i think tim's thought was just not thought out completely. maybe he was rushed, or maybe his leftist bubble is real 😛

I think the main problem is that when someone says "diversity" you get a different answer per person.

He's probably just not playing devil's advocate enough and being far, far, FAR too generous when it comes to assuming people are 'good' or like him.

likely.

Like that black Apple diversity woman who got fired for saying that 12 white men could be diverse for having different backgrounds.

A lot of the liberals I know have this inherent believe that people from other cultures think exactly like them, and that the only differences are different languages, cloths, food, music, etc.