The innocent man I would give him a light sentence, like 1 year prison time, then release him on good behavior in month and half before clearing his record.. As for the 10 who are guilty, I would punish them with the full book.

I know there is no such thing as annulment, but I think they're going to manufacture it.

> Other commentators have echoed the principle; Benjamin Franklin stated it as, "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer"

> It is more important that innocence should be protected, than it is, that guilt be punished; for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world, that all of them cannot be punished.... when innocence itself, is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, 'it is immaterial to me whether I behave well or ill, for virtue itself is no security.' And if such a sentiment as this were to take hold in the mind of the subject that would be the end of all security whatsoever

<http://robertreich.org/post/177349093095>

They will manufacture *anything* if it means power.

I would work with the law to get the man the lightest sentence and have his record exponged.

If I have no choice to place a innocent in prison to keep the 10 guilty in prison.

MArk> Abraham drew near, and said, "Will you consume the righteous with the wicked? What if there are fifty righteous within the city? Will you consume and not spare the place for the fifty righteous who are in it?[2] ... What if ten are found there?" He [The Lord] said, "I will not destroy it for the ten's sake."[3]

I'm watching very carefully for public figures on the left dropping the word "annul" or "annulment" with respect to Trump. If you see more and more celebs, commentators, politicians, etc use the word you know they're trying to give the concept legitimacy.

Is that a good choice?

Atkins they cannot do anything without legislative power to do it

Moral Dilemma by Timcast was you free innocent man and 10 guilty accused of sexual misconduct or keep innocent in prison with the 10 guilty for sexually misconduct. I would put innocent man in prison with light sentence after explaining to him while putting harsh sentences with the 10 guilty, then release man on good behavior after a month before expunging his record. I have a feeling the innocent man would agree with me since I have no choice.

Atkins but once they have that power they will do it

What would you guys do?

@Mark I would adhere to blackstone's formulation as I quoted above I think

Well I am thinking outside the box.

If I can't do that, I would not put him in prison because I don't want to be responsible for ruining a innocent man's life.

Mark, hard cases make bad law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_cases_make_bad_law

Mark, the principle is one of the foundations of liberalism

and liberalism in the sense of liberalism not leftism

Liberals are against it now.

Since Trump is for it.

Mark, they are not liberals 😉

Well the modern liberals, not classical liberals.

Classical Liberals are cool.

Classical Liberals is a bit of misnomer

They are the liberals before the current crazy liberals came.

Modern Liberalism started with John Locke - more than 200 years ago

O.o

Mark, the people you USias call liberals are further to the left

Mark, and should rather call them leftists as a group than liberals

I used to be a liberal till they started becoming authoritative or I started noticing it for the first time, then I became a Libertarian Republican, but they are against ATheists.

Mark, but if someone is authoriarian they are really not liberal

So I became a Atheist, independent constitutionalist who stands by the constitution.

The US started misusing liberal around the time JFK died.

I think the current modern date "Liberals" are nothing but infiltrators.

Mark, Republicans in USA is a liberal conservative party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I am just explaining what I experienced... I had an freaking journey to end up where I am now.

Mark, the US left is turning away from liebralism - and it is not surprising that real liberals end up seeing republicans in a more favourable light IMO

WE can call ourselves libcons.

wood \o/

Independent Constitutionalist who is Atheist that leans right and supports the modern day Conservatives against the modern day Democrats/Far Left who became manipulating authoritarians.

I rather side with people who hate me as atheist but willing to defend my rights than people who love me as atheist but wants to take away my rights.

Basically that sums my stance at the moment, not to mention that Republicans are bringing back a prosperous United States under Trump which is definitely a huge plus in my book.

so just to be clear on this also - modern liberalism started with John Locke - who influenced USian revolutionaries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke

> His writings influenced Voltaire and Jean-Jacques Rousseau, many Scottish Enlightenment thinkers, as well as the American revolutionaries.

The US constitution is a modern liberal constitution - it is just that in US liberal is used to refer to ideologies which is left of actual liberalism

Mark, do you know Douglas Murray?

Conservatives today are more inline with old Liberal ideology than the fact liberals today.

No I do not know Douglas Murray.

In this political climate the right is definitely more tolerant. I think the modern concenses of what a conservative is is changing.

Reason I haven't comment on anything about it yet.

As an atheist I've never felt as threatened by evangelical Christians as I do by leftists.

Exactly Dev.

Mark, man you must watch it: https://youtu.be/WmvPfbfzX4U?t=7846

Conservatives are becoming more open and tolerant than the apparent "Tolerant" party aka Democrats.

I never thought there would be a day that I would agree with conservatives...

And respect the conservatives, life sure does surprise you.

I am an agnostic who would love to have anarchism but that's not practical. I just want a government that doesn't feel the need to tell me what to do,.

Evangelicals will just come at you with whatever argument they just learned by reading CS Lewis. They won't try to murder you with a bike lock.

thats the governments job

Yeah Anarchism is not practical, it is just a dream that will never become reality.

For Anarchism to work, you need to strip away everyone's individualism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBTBIg7ht4

That's the irony Trump definitely says a lot of stupid things but he has been restricting government from messing with my life. Be that through deregulation and incompetence.

Can't say I didn't see that coming. There is a reason the term "The left eats its own" exist.

I really like Trump. I notice more and more Atheists are siding with Trump now.

Like me.

Wil believes in the progressive stack, there logic is that if you insult them you insult there identity. so when Wil blocked a troll he didn't do it because she was a dick. He did it because he hates women and trans people. This is what happens when you compete to be the most oppressed.

The far left are insane.. They have no principles or values or morals or standards or responsibility at all. Whenever they feel like they are loosing argument, are shown in bad light, or proven to be wrong... they immediately talk about campaigning against that law or the person or people's ability.

Hm, if they want to defend Pedophilia?

once again, he isnt banned from the entire website

just mastodon.cloud

there are thousands of others out there

Like if an disabled community decides to denounce the far left, they are immediately attacked and discriminated by the far left while the left campaigns to remove the rights of the disabled.

That is how the left are these days.

Some what pedos to be a stripe on the rainbow, https://www.reddit.com/r/TheNewRight/comments/93jczf/oooh_democrats_dont_support_pedophiliathey/

What is funny, I was shadow banned by twitter because I stand by the constitution and think everyone's rights should be protect regardless of political affiliation.

The left protecting and campaigning to normalize pedophilia is fucking sick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fx6P7d21o

Will inability to see this happening just proves he is not as smart as he think he is. Used to watch his tabletop YT vids. The man definitely smells his own farts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q6pDGNQw3I

Is The White Rose still making vidoes?

Her channel looks dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQMU5K0ykA

This right here...

They are playing words, trying to make people feel sympathy for pedophiles.

Like words like... Minor Attractive Person

Is the white rose still disableing comments?

Or categorizing Pedophile as a sexual orientation.

You know... I just realize something.

This is a custom of muslims to have child brides.

This might be the reason they are pushing for it.

It is a Muslim agenda.

Or Islamist agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO-EeL4neYw

We are regressing to a freaking third world undeveloped country.

Develop countries do not condone child marriages and pedophila.

Remember the New Mexico Judge stated that cultural differences could explain why a group of Muslims who were training kids to shoot up schools, would fid it normal to have the dead body of a 3 year old in the house. S there must be some dumbass out there who would belive fucking children is normal.

WTF...

That still doesn't make it right for it to happen here in United States.