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2019-01-28 19:38:04 UTC

No

2019-01-28 19:38:15 UTC

Democratic socialist is different from social democratic

democratic socialism is the same thing as socialism

Cortez and Bernie are social democrats

2019-01-28 19:39:02 UTC

Democratic socialism is (ideally) a form of socialism, but social democracy is just capitalism with enough lefty stuff added

2019-01-28 19:39:05 UTC

Sorta

soc dem is just a mixed economy

socialism can never be democratic

2019-01-28 19:40:15 UTC

False

2019-01-28 19:40:45 UTC

Socialism is just public ownership of means of production, which makes ost sense when done fully democratically

2019-01-28 19:40:57 UTC

Although itโ€™s still very untested on a major scale

seizing the means of production is not democratic

2019-01-28 19:45:14 UTC

How canโ€™t it be

Because seizing the MoP is always forceful

2019-01-28 19:49:00 UTC

because companies won't just hand themselves over

2019-01-28 19:50:20 UTC

hMMmmM

WW2 did not end the great depression

2019-01-28 20:29:14 UTC

it ended before

2019-01-28 20:29:57 UTC

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2008/12/30/diagnosing-depression
The economist, fair journal, defines a depression as meeting
10% decline in real GDP or a recession that lasts more than 3 yrs

2019-01-28 20:30:24 UTC

if you look at real GDP in the later half of the 30s, you already start to see growth

GDP growing does not signal an end of a recession

2019-01-28 20:30:58 UTC

I used the definition the economist did

2019-01-28 20:31:04 UTC

unless you want to provide an alternative one

A recession is 2 quarters of economic growth

2019-01-28 20:31:20 UTC

decline you mean?

but an economy hasn't recovered until the unemployment is down to the pre recession levels

However this is all face value, gdp growth is a good representation of the state of an economy quite a few times.

For example WW2 had high gdp growth and 0 unemployment almost.

But thats not economic prosperity

2019-01-28 20:32:37 UTC

well we disagree on the definition of recession lol

2019-01-28 20:32:50 UTC

many people believe that recession is a negative event

2019-01-28 20:32:54 UTC

you just said it's positive

thats not the defintion used in US

2019-01-28 20:33:07 UTC

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2019-01-28 20:33:16 UTC

lol

2019-01-28 20:33:25 UTC

The New Deal saved everything ๐Ÿ—ฟ

There was no multiplier effect in ww2, consumption just shrank and all the scarce resources were used to build tanks and weapons. This did not grow the economy, it did increase the quality of material standard of living

Unemployment was at 0% but the recession did not end

It's pretty easy to remove unemployment when your nation is at war and there is a draft

If it were like this we would have all the workers in the army and fleet with 0% unemployment

2019-01-28 20:34:35 UTC

I wouldn't put economic prosperity as a criteria against a recession

2019-01-28 20:34:57 UTC

well by economic prosperity, what do you mean?

I'd say a recession hasn't been recovered until the unemployment has reached pre recession levels

Like a rise in the material standard of living

2019-01-28 20:36:02 UTC

okay if you're saying a recession is based around the unemployment rate, then it would have ended in the early 40s when unemployment reached almost 0

2019-01-28 20:36:26 UTC

but I don't think it's tied to the unemployment rate as much as it is to gdp

Normally the recession is still in place until unemployment reaches pre recession levels

thats how almost everyone says it

whether or not there is 2 quarters of negative growth

But no thats the point, unemployment being 0 was artifical. As in the recession was still in place and didn't end

2019-01-28 20:38:30 UTC

well the reason I disagree with that interpretation is because if the recession starts because of economic activity, shouldnt it also end with economic activity

2019-01-28 20:38:40 UTC

i believe gdp is a better indicator of economic activity than unemployment

the economy also includes unemployment

if people are unemployed in tons, the economy is not doing well

thats atleast how recessions are measured in mainstream

thats why 2008 was such a long recession or "recovery"

2019-01-28 20:39:57 UTC

yeah I figure thats because unemployment tends to affect the average person more than the gdp of a country does

ye it's just an indicator

like if you grow gdp 2% in a recession but unemployment is at 10% when it was at 3% pre recession

you're still in a recession

2019-01-28 20:41:26 UTC

gdp usually grows faster than people finding new jobs

2019-01-28 20:41:44 UTC

so of course it'll take longer for the unemployment to fall back down after gdp recovers

Yeah thatโ€™s why the recession is still being felt

2019-01-28 21:24:56 UTC

Satanism has evolved

2019-01-28 23:05:31 UTC

We're headed toward another dark age; Rome saw a huge increase in sexual deviancy including homosexuality and transgenderism immediately preceding its fall.

2019-01-28 23:16:31 UTC

Lmao that's not true, they were extremely tolerant of homosexuality, then moved away from those beliefs, then the empire fell

2019-01-28 23:16:34 UTC

it's the exact opposite

2019-01-28 23:17:17 UTC

Plato espoused homosexual acceptance centuries before the fall of Rome

2019-01-28 23:17:53 UTC

then like 100 years before the fall they outlawed gay marriage, then the sacking of Rome happened

2019-01-28 23:17:56 UTC

so like, nah

2019-01-28 23:27:45 UTC

https://appliedsentience.com/2013/07/19/a-global-historical-survey-does-accepting-homosexuality-lead-to-civilizational-ruin/ in fact there's some evidence that accepting homosexuality is associated with really positive trends in society. The only negative impact I see with homosexuality acceptance is it causes all the homophobes to act out because they get afraid. But I want to read more about this beyond this source.

2019-01-28 23:28:10 UTC

"The global trends are as clear as can be. Policy towards homosexuality has been overwhelming liberal with increasing acceptance in the past 100-200 years. During this same time almost all indicators concerning quality of life and civilizational โ€˜advancementโ€™, instead of decline, have shown vast improvement.

In other words, acceptance of homosexuality in fact correlates with the strengthening of the social fabric."

2019-01-28 23:38:34 UTC

you could also correlate human sacrifice helped out the aztecs

2019-01-28 23:41:24 UTC

my larger point is that the correlation IVLIVS pointed out is bunk

2019-01-28 23:41:26 UTC

Do you think our civilization is getting stronger as it tolerates and celebrates expanding varieties of sexual deviancy

2019-01-28 23:41:39 UTC

i think we should return back to ritual sacrifice

2019-01-28 23:41:46 UTC

I think your definition of sexual deviancy is lame and unhelpful so uh yeah?

2019-01-28 23:41:56 UTC

but it's a loaded question so no haha

2019-01-28 23:42:22 UTC

Are you capable of talking like someone with a brain or do you need these valley girl-isms at the end of every sentence

2019-01-28 23:42:46 UTC

ad hominems bruh, stop using them

2019-01-28 23:42:54 UTC

oh wait you're the libtard that's a girl lmao

2019-01-28 23:43:14 UTC

am I? I was unaware

2019-01-28 23:43:21 UTC

Are you?

2019-01-28 23:43:34 UTC

hahahaha well why bother telling you you seem to have it all figured out

2019-01-28 23:44:00 UTC

I am a white, 22 year old man if it matters (and it doesn't)

2019-01-28 23:44:25 UTC

You should stop talking like a teenage girl then

2019-01-28 23:44:30 UTC

it is disgraceful

2019-01-28 23:44:44 UTC

mercy me, have I offended your delicate sensibilities

2019-01-28 23:45:24 UTC

I am not so much offended as I am concerned for you

2019-01-28 23:45:49 UTC

I appreciate the concern! I'm doin pretty well tho

2019-01-28 23:46:36 UTC

You are not acting in a masculine way

2019-01-28 23:46:56 UTC

oh no

2019-01-28 23:47:01 UTC

you will not be doing well at all until you embrace your natural role in society

2019-01-28 23:47:18 UTC

nobody will respect you while you talk like a valley girl

2019-01-28 23:47:24 UTC

I mean I love my job, have great friends, so idk what you mean

2019-01-28 23:47:25 UTC

surely you have experienced this

2019-01-28 23:47:29 UTC

uh, no

2019-01-28 23:48:06 UTC

do you just avoid being around masculine men who might judge you for your this

2019-01-28 23:48:23 UTC

do you surround yourself with similarly weak men and women who do not make you feel inadequate

2019-01-28 23:50:53 UTC

I have all kinds of friends? Friends that like to go hunting, friends that are feminine, friends that like to lift weights and party, friends that are sensitive artists. I surround myself with good people, that's the only rule. All your attempts to make me look shitty are pretty funny tbh.

2019-01-28 23:51:26 UTC

I don't know it looks like I touched a nerve

2019-01-28 23:51:34 UTC

you're just asking me questions ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2019-01-28 23:51:50 UTC

haha so triggered rn wow

2019-01-28 23:51:56 UTC

sweatin over here

2019-01-28 23:52:03 UTC

*oh god my masculinity*

2019-01-28 23:52:16 UTC

You've become erratic and panicky, I think you are triggered

2019-01-28 23:52:25 UTC

mkayyyy

2019-01-28 23:52:30 UTC

lmao

2019-01-28 23:57:47 UTC
2019-01-28 23:57:53 UTC

Every gay is going to hell.

2019-01-28 23:57:54 UTC

Its sad.

2019-01-28 23:57:59 UTC

People like you who think its accepted.

2019-01-28 23:58:06 UTC

Are making more people become gay.

2019-01-28 23:58:13 UTC

Homosexuality is like a disease.

2019-01-28 23:58:15 UTC

It SPREADS.

2019-01-28 23:58:21 UTC

When 1 person becomes gay and people tolerate it.

2019-01-28 23:58:28 UTC

Others think its okay.

2019-01-28 23:58:33 UTC

Then they become gay.

2019-01-28 23:58:59 UTC

I hate the LGBTP so much.

2019-01-29 00:00:30 UTC

shadow agrees that we should return to sacrificing people

2019-01-29 00:03:57 UTC

It also spreads by rape

2019-01-29 00:04:39 UTC

Is it true that 80% of gays have diseases

2019-01-29 00:04:44 UTC

like hiv

2019-01-29 00:05:23 UTC

Victims of molestation usually become hypersexual in adulthood, and victims of homosexual molestation usually become hypersexual gays.

2019-01-29 00:05:47 UTC

So what you're saying is

2019-01-29 00:05:50 UTC

Gays are mentally ill

2019-01-29 00:06:17 UTC

Now that is epic

2019-01-29 00:06:55 UTC

ok I think you guys are going way too far, if you don't accept the LGBT that's fine then just ignore it. The stuff you guys are saying is too far.

2019-01-29 00:07:17 UTC

I personally don't understand it, but they can do what they want to do.

2019-01-29 00:07:27 UTC

so I "accept" it ig

2019-01-29 00:07:35 UTC

But it's a mental illness

2019-01-29 00:08:11 UTC

Transgenderism is a mental illness known as gender dysphoria. Being gay/bi isn't, you're just attracted to something else.

2019-01-29 00:08:44 UTC

But they can't make babies

2019-01-29 00:08:52 UTC

ok and?

2019-01-29 00:09:08 UTC

a lot of married couples never have children

2019-01-29 00:09:21 UTC

They don't have mental illnesses obviously

2019-01-29 00:09:40 UTC

Besides a lot of them adopt children, which helps give kids homes

2019-01-29 00:09:51 UTC

And create more gays

2019-01-29 00:10:15 UTC

Not true

2019-01-29 00:10:26 UTC

just because you are raised by a gay couple doesn't make you gay

2019-01-29 00:10:47 UTC

same way Republican families can have democrat children, or vice versa.

2019-01-29 00:10:56 UTC

you're parents beliefs aren't always passed down to you

2019-01-29 00:11:01 UTC

especially not sexual preferences

2019-01-29 00:11:12 UTC

only if it's conservative it needs to be passed down

2019-01-29 00:11:34 UTC

Muffster, what are your thoughts on human sacrifice?

2019-01-29 00:11:48 UTC

People can believe in what they want to believe. While i'm a conservative personally i'm fine with democrats/liberals.

2019-01-29 00:11:58 UTC

everyone has different opinions on certain issues

2019-01-29 00:12:07 UTC

Sacrifice gays to please almighty god

2019-01-29 00:12:28 UTC

@hcaez wbu

2019-01-29 00:12:33 UTC

wow

2019-01-29 00:12:38 UTC

Thats a good start

2019-01-29 00:12:45 UTC

but there's a lot more people who need to be sacrificed too

2019-01-29 00:13:01 UTC

Hillary Clinton

2019-01-29 00:13:04 UTC

Bernie Sanders

2019-01-29 00:13:07 UTC

...

2019-01-29 00:13:09 UTC

That donkey I forgot her name.

2019-01-29 00:13:15 UTC

Something with a z at the end

2019-01-29 00:13:21 UTC

it's okay kylo

2019-01-29 00:13:23 UTC

Talks about god, yet wants people to die that they don't even know

2019-01-29 00:13:27 UTC

nice

2019-01-29 00:13:32 UTC

definitely heaven material

2019-01-29 00:13:44 UTC

well

2019-01-29 00:13:46 UTC

Because I'm white and a male so I automatically get access

2019-01-29 00:14:05 UTC

Ok you're a troll, thanks for the confirmation. Go back to the KKK discord

2019-01-29 00:14:07 UTC

in the book of numbers, god did say something like "tribute thirty two virgins to me"

2019-01-29 00:14:13 UTC

I don't agree with the kkk

2019-01-29 00:14:24 UTC

you just made a white supremacy statement my guy

2019-01-29 00:14:30 UTC

literally just seconds ago

2019-01-29 00:14:38 UTC

I was making fun of liberals when they say white privilege

2019-01-29 00:14:40 UTC

you also have in the book of john "the blood of bulls are not enough to wipe away sin"

2019-01-29 00:14:42 UTC

The KKK is not JUST a white supremist group.

2019-01-29 00:14:50 UTC

that's their main focus

2019-01-29 00:15:21 UTC

I'm not a racist I just think whites shouldn't mix with other races

2019-01-29 00:15:33 UTC

You also have thou shalt not judge their neighbor

2019-01-29 00:15:45 UTC

you can't pick and choose bible quotes

2019-01-29 00:15:58 UTC

oh speaking of judge

2019-01-29 00:16:00 UTC

in the book of judges

2019-01-29 00:16:20 UTC

God told Jephthah to sacrifice his next newborn

2019-01-29 00:16:21 UTC

and he did

2019-01-29 00:16:54 UTC

choosing religion to defend your argument isn't a good pathway

2019-01-29 00:16:55 UTC

ever

2019-01-29 00:17:33 UTC

@hcaez what do you think about human sacrifice

2019-01-29 00:17:43 UTC

I think it's needed

2019-01-29 00:17:46 UTC

For what

2019-01-29 00:17:54 UTC

as a form of punishment at the least

2019-01-29 00:18:07 UTC

even if you don't believe in the abrahamic god

2019-01-29 00:18:24 UTC

I think for punishment you should be sent to the front lines

2019-01-29 00:18:37 UTC

well its a good thing we don't have someone like you running the country, I would rather take 500 AOC's over you.

2019-01-29 00:18:37 UTC

Lol

2019-01-29 00:18:40 UTC

any crime

2019-01-29 00:20:46 UTC

Right - That man is going to jail for murder!
Left - That man is going to jail for smirking!

2019-01-29 00:21:24 UTC

Hi

2019-01-29 00:21:30 UTC

hello visitor

2019-01-29 00:21:35 UTC

what are you thoughts about sacrifice?

2019-01-29 00:21:38 UTC

Did someone call for a libgay

2019-01-29 00:21:39 UTC

like huamn lives

2019-01-29 00:21:41 UTC

Sacrifice?

2019-01-29 00:21:44 UTC

yeah

2019-01-29 00:21:46 UTC

Bad.

2019-01-29 00:21:46 UTC

Like ritual sacrifice??

2019-01-29 00:21:49 UTC

yea

2019-01-29 00:21:50 UTC

Whatโ€™s wrong with ritual sacrifices?

2019-01-29 00:21:51 UTC

like in the bible

2019-01-29 00:21:52 UTC

Heckkkk no

2019-01-29 00:21:56 UTC

Oh hey

2019-01-29 00:21:57 UTC

everything

2019-01-29 00:21:59 UTC

Another libgay

2019-01-29 00:22:00 UTC

numbers, exodus, genesis

2019-01-29 00:22:00 UTC

Why no? They are a good thing....

2019-01-29 00:22:07 UTC

No they are not

2019-01-29 00:22:12 UTC

why not

2019-01-29 00:22:13 UTC

How are they a bad thing?

2019-01-29 00:22:14 UTC

Sacrifice only the people who believe in sacrifices

2019-01-29 00:22:24 UTC

Yeah let's kill someone for no reason

2019-01-29 00:22:25 UTC

woohoo

2019-01-29 00:22:28 UTC

Yeep

2019-01-29 00:22:28 UTC

No, you have to sacrifice non believers as well.

2019-01-29 00:22:29 UTC

no

2019-01-29 00:22:36 UTC

Sacrifice everyone except yourself

2019-01-29 00:22:40 UTC

Itโ€™s not for โ€œno reasonโ€ itโ€™s for a good reason

2019-01-29 00:22:40 UTC

kylo, look at the examples I've given you in the bible

2019-01-29 00:22:45 UTC

To summon Shaggy

2019-01-29 00:22:45 UTC

None of them are for no reason

2019-01-29 00:22:50 UTC

The only sacrifice is made by our military and veterans everyday

2019-01-29 00:22:55 UTC

Again, if you try using religion as an argument I won't accept it

2019-01-29 00:23:04 UTC

it makes you completely uncredible

2019-01-29 00:23:09 UTC

how so

2019-01-29 00:23:15 UTC

Wow

2019-01-29 00:23:16 UTC

Because religion isn't factual

2019-01-29 00:23:18 UTC

in anyway

2019-01-29 00:23:21 UTC

This dude is a non believer

2019-01-29 00:23:24 UTC

the most followed religion and most produced book

2019-01-29 00:23:24 UTC

It is fact idiot/

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