@Sam Amari well look man. if you want help thats cool and all. but dont be insufferable about it

Look, dude the more time you spend here chatting with us, the less time you spend on becoming a new you. To become a new you, you gotta destroy the old you. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM.

lol what do you know about my life?

what you've told us

you think victims don't exist?

I know nothing.

bro, i cannot do ANY physical job. i have literally no pectoral muscles. i was under the knife in Germany for almost all of the formative years my friends were getting internships in college.

@Sam Amari look man. i feel for you. but if you keep this up with the pity party thing and the disrespect im going to do something about it

what?

what do you mean?

I was raped when I was a kid, I was put under the knife and couldn't walk properly for a month, I tried to end my life. Yet, I'm still here and I never asked for help. When I asked for help, people fucking didn't care or acknowledged me in any way. You gotta start by helping yourself first then others will help you. I'm sorry there is no other way. But you gotta man the fuck up. Excuses are like assholes, everybody has one.

i understand and appreciate the "you just gotta help yourself" and "one step at a time" i just literally do not know what to do with said advice. im sorry, maybe im retarded. fuck

Maybe start with getting rid of addictions so you can solve problems with a clear head?

your on here all the time being confrontational about people giving you advice when you talk about stuff and your being disrespectful to people. if me for instance giving you advice on moving forward bothers you that much just dont talk about it

i get it. i do. i feel you. your going through some hardcore shit right now

im not trying to be confrontational dude i just LITERALLY DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO.

Shadow, LET ZODD HANDLE THIS CLEAN AND SIMPLE

Zodd, I get it, you hate me

@Sam Amari , NOBODY CARES. NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT UR PROBLEMS HERE. We Pointed you in the Right Directions, BUT YOU ASK THE WRONG QUESTIONS and YOU KEEP RUNNING IN CIRCLES.

So ** GET UR SHIT TOGETHER AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS**

plenty of people have cared, Mod1, shadow, eclipse, lots of other names i haven't heard. i don't know what list of correct questions i should be asking man. im in a dire situation. if it's not allowed to talk about, i won't, but please dont make me feel worse for seemingly no reason

yea. and the sympathy has run out

take charge and move forward

im not trying to garner sypathy or money, if i was, i would have accepted it when people were offering. im literally coming here asking for concrete advice on what to do. instead im met with "stop whining, and man up". thanks, but im a real breathing person and that doesnt help me afford my medications. if you want me to stop talking about it, damn, i will, but im disappointed because i didnt expect this to be the type of place that bans you if you bring up your situation. ive mentioned it 3 times total.

Welcome to the suck.

😂 what just happened?

Our man's is just a bit lost. Didn't you guys ever felt lost too?

``` Sam Amari
you think victims don't exist? ```

found it 😂

LETZ CUT THE BULLSHIT OUT, **it is DIRECTLY ABOUT MONEY**, WITHOUT IT ur LIVING CONDITIONS BECOME WORSE.
So why not Think about that.

never said it wasnt. ive said many times its about money. its about affording my medicine

honestly, its fine. if this isn't welcome discussion i can just pm the people who were supportive the first time i brought it up.

It is fine to talk about it. But what else do you expect from us?

i have no one else to talk to man. im literally sorry if this is offensive. damn, this is just not what i expected.

i wish i could just post an IG pic of me looking sad and get 30 supportive dms but i dont have that luxury. i came here to get something more than "man up, faggot". but if thats what the mods in here are saying what else can i do

sorry everyone

I didn't call you a faggot

sure. ignoring the advice i gave you is fine.

like many times

He doesn't want advice. He just wants to be listened to.

Ewww

Yeah...

well, hel, im down to PM. i didn't ignore any of your advice, shadow.

i like your taste in music btw hel

This is the type of shit that actually drives men to kill themselves, but on the other hand we don't own anyone our time. Big cognitive dissonance. Idk anymore.

well i mean yeah. that's what i dont get. i thought it was all "MGTOW Saves Lives". but i come here with an actual, serious problem and i'm met with scorn for creating a pity party. there's no winning if you're a dude

i've been a part of MGTOW for 3 years and never have i came to the community with a serious problem. ive never posted a youtube comment, reddit thread, called into a content creator. i just need to talk about this issue to someone. i have no one else.

``` i wish i could just post an IG pic of me looking sad and get 30 supportive dms but i dont have that luxury. i came here to get something more than "man up, faggot". but if thats what the mods in here are saying what else can i do ```

basically, nobody cares. not because we don't care about people, but because coddling someone isn't productive and men know that.

the only solution is for you to man up. sorry you're physical prowess is lacking, but it doesn't all have to do with being physical. there's all kinds of ways that you can man up to your own situation.

once other men see that they don't have to keep holding you up and you actually contribute, you will "feel" welcome.

i mean until i hear practical advice instead of "man up", "one step at a time", "it gets better" i just dont know what to do with that. its appreciated, the tough love and all. but it makes my situation 0% different.

man up is advice

that's why you keep getting shit

Mod1 was actually trying to offer concrete advice about charities and how i can survive and avoid the streets. i was hoping to get some of that kind of help rather than "man up". but i know its a lot to ask.

do you know what "take charge" means?

do you know what "taking charge" means?

@Sam Amari I told you practical advice, day 1. Go to charities, call insurance, call gov, start gofundme, sue mom, get a job that can afford you rent/food/insurance/medicine and live life!

well, thank you

Do you have a car?

You have many options my dude. Just don't stay in this broken state. It won't do you any good.

that shit is kinda obvious. nobody should have to tell you to go to the godamn food bank if you're not eating

@Sam Amari the call-in show exists for this, write down your thoughts to have a cohesive series of points and topics and we can discuss it

^ thank you

Excellent too!

HHH, i am not trying to bog down your chat with my personal issues. I don't want this reputation. I love this chat and several of the good men in here. I am just trying to avoid self destruction/total giving up

then learn how to tell your story without the pity party

Meh, I don't care what you call it roadcrypto.

Call me every buzzword you'd like. I don't care at this point. I'll be a SJW in your eyes if you'd like.

exactly. you're used to crying and you're just gonna keep crying when someone tells you to man up

that's why you got a nice light blue tag 😂

...?

last time a girl told me to man up i said "i don't see you barefoot in the kitchen saying this shit"

did you slap her?

"man up" is just a bullshit phrase man. it's literally like a highly downvoted meme in /r/mgtow

you're just too dense to undersand that it means "take charge of your own situation"

if im tagged with some "pussy" color, i dont care. i dont care about much other than learning how im going to afford to stay alive

yes, im a dense idiot. good job. thanks.

@roadcrypto Chill dude. We're trying to help each other out here not tear each other down.

@Sam Amari i have known many people who cannot actualize on advice because they rely on pity and sympathy to justify their own laziness. If you cannot absorb any of the knowledge from other men here, my videos and other mgtow videos, there is not much we can do to help you if you don't want to help yourself

@Sam Amari is in a tough situation.

HHH, I do want to help myself.

so.. he's a victim? 😂

You're pretty fascinated with buzzwords there roadcrypto

@roadcrypto Naw, I wouldn't say victim but he needs to make hard decisions.

No. He's not a victim.

I don't even know what I'm doing in this chan, I don't even follow this youtuber

^ lol

Look I will send you some videos. Watch them. @Sam Amari

@roadcrypto You should check him out. Pretty sick.

i watched one yesterday and saw the discord link..

@Happy Humble Hermit I appreciate that man. I really do. There is no room for me to be lazy. I'm not being lazy. Trust me on this. Do you guys think I'm just hanging out playing World of Warcraft while I have the new realization that i have no more support? im not. i promise on

my dead best friend, my dead dad... whatever you want me to swear on

and yes, I'm a jerk, @machtyn 😂

@Sam Amari Create an actionable plan and call in then! We got you. Keep bouncing ideas off and venting when you need.

Thank you

@Sam you might feel insulted right now, but trust me, it's 'tough love' and we want to help if you help yourself like HHH said.

Thank you... a lot. Not trolling me to try and make yourself look more manly, just trying to help. this is what i was seeking

@roadcrypto being a jerk is not really a problem 😄

is this mgtow or MRA? 😂

I want to, in one year, have this seem like a distant memory man. Im just fucking way overwhelmed with my stark new reality and havent found a way to figure it out yet.

We all have good intentions here dw

@roadcrypto ... just go watch some of the videos

I'm watching the videos you sent me Hel. Thank you.