Heard stuff about gaining wealth. Get a managed investment account at a big name place, my first was Vanguard, put 10% of your income in. As you get more successful and live cheaper put more in. When you have time study micro and macro economics, study history, download historic stock market charts and analyze it.

if you can't do it well, keep it managed and understand you won't get above the 25-30% we've seen in those account recently.

I bought AMD at $2 and sold at $24, the market will always have these opportunities, up to you to identify them and grow your wealth properly. Rich people invest, it's one of the things every man needs to be aware of.

I believe every man needs to have two goals from day 1. Health and Financial Independence. Both are huge topics

Shaunuss Look at the Ukraine, $150k/kid no strings right now

It's dirt cheap compared to dealing with a western woman

I say it because of legal laws but eastern european woman you can have your pick of.. yeah not a bad DNA source for sure 😉

I had interviews with 5 when I went to give my sperm

I had a female friend come with me and pretend to be wife, most of them require that

What do you want to know specifically?

I found Ukraine is cheapest and laws are friendliest for surrogacy

They require DNA test before you take kid back to USA as a citizen and your kid, mother has 0 rights

Yes

I was on chat with Hermit in his roundtable before

I mentioned it then too

Where there is a will there is a way, and that was my way.

Having a kid is a real pain and a ton of work but it's satisfying.

I hired minimum wage woman to do most of the nonsense, this is why you need financial security first.

I'm coming on late 30's now, I was financially independent at mid 30's, started MGTOW sort of lifestyle in early 20's. never gave a woman any cash at all.

Even told my mother I couldn't finance her bad choices

and last week she's overjoyed she gets benefits from my father she divorced when I was 6! lol

so my friend, keep to your discipline you'll be able to buy children without women and those kids will be yours, just like mine is.

I will teach him to smile and nod in school but to love freedom in life

Shaunuss I understand your hatred. I am not over the period in my life where I had to work for others in a feminized BS environment

and when I say feminizes I'm talking about the men.

Thank goodness, I was dealing with guys who cried about dry skin and got a moisturizer and group bought fragrances to see which was best.

Shaunuss never be ashamed of being who and what you are. My work environment is why I can't be a good caller to Hermit

Once I go into that I get incoherent and just want to fight

I'm 36 too actually

And i've had that too, I have some advantages, we could talk about it but I don't want to type it

I didn't see it, what times have the roundtables been lately?

last one I saw was like 1am EST

I'm usually asleep then

which is why I don't show up more

I live near Wash DC in USA

Let's say my commute is 8 minutes door to door.

I don't live in DC

And at this point, I telecommute 80% of the time

Crappy part of town, nothing good there

I barely work anymore I started my company to overcome a crap vendor and profited hugely

Basically I was the in demand tech and said "f your payscale" and got nice contracts with my clients

Be careful, the company is a nice shield. Make sure you have at least a living wage lined up before you do it. Insurance is expensive, the business license wasn't so bad

And I'll say this, I was a one man operation, I paid so much taxes it was out of this world. I took in half a million and barely past six figures in personal income by the time it was all done. This is why I learned investments.

I am very tempted to get my CPA and spend the rest of my life helping people give as little to the gov as possible

They took SO MUCH from me

and I didn't even get divorced and have no kids

at least no child support kids!

You have to figure out your best path forward then. In the US, marriage is a death sentence.

Children are a death sentence.

I've got to go, PM me if you need a source for ukraine or even curious

'sup guys?

I'd like to but my story is too specific

you don't get it dude

Drama 😃

marriage != mgtow

Comp Sci major 😃 hate me for it

while(smalldick):{penissize+0.01cm}

all I showed was penis size increase, haters must want it smaller.

want to adopt?

let me know if it raises up. I have a young cousin who needs a good father.

Die without children then, please.

10 years past graduation 😃

So not wanting to be part of the roundtable which is the story to join?

intelligence is applying knowlege these days, showing it just gets you hated on.

if I'm wrong say it 😃

my last job i smiled to a dumb ho and undercut her to the max, told the people paying me she was the dumest idiot i ever met. they fired her.

Neffex is pretty good and some of his stuff sounds like eminem

no clue, haven't heard that abbreviation

his famous song is never give up

the US only has problems in a handful of cities

DC, baltimore, chicago, detroit

depends what block you're on

i live 45 minutes from DC

i don't go there much, or baltimore

baltimore when i lived right outside of it in 2000 was a shithole

did she come witha bulletproof vest? haha

yeah houses that are free if you agree to live there for 5 years

no one is willing lol

that was the deal in 2000

i don't know what they havev going now

even the most drugged up broke ghetto piece of shit doesn't want to live in those houses

after i moved there an asian friend visited and wanted to be a tourist to baltimore... it was rough lol

the edgar allen poe house was straight up felt like we were going to be killed, his grave same thing. lexington market we were the only non-black there and got a ton of looks

we were 18 year old kids so i think we got a pass for being ignorant

no kidding! when you get old shit gets real

36

yeah i was living MGTOW and when it got popular a few years ago it was like "finally! I can talk to guys" lol

it's all good man, this experience we were all thrown into has gotten really crazy

you mean you don't like mumble rap? haha

the only show i go to anymore is hospital records at U street in DC once a year

that shit is 6 hours of straight up high energy dancing

any club guys come in trying to feel up on girls get kicked to the curb we all want to see these fine honeys in lingerie working it

do you have software that reads the key of the song?

if you can blend on key it makes for a great transition

i am a bass guitar player i love how simple music is makes it easy to jam on any track

right on, you get it then

yeah i don't deal with punk at all, it's just noise to me lol

met this girl who wanted to start a punk band, when i heard her guitar i was like hells no

one of my goals is to get into sound production and record a MGTOW song