Message from @Vigil

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2018-09-06 10:31:23 UTC  

I'm in the UK for reference

2018-09-06 10:32:07 UTC  

i am so sorry

2018-09-06 10:32:19 UTC  

Most of my city is gang territory and the police have closed tons of stations, London has all the money, people are focusing on emotions and not looking racist more than actually tackling crime and other issues, and in general things are sliding downhill

2018-09-06 10:32:33 UTC  

hmm

2018-09-06 10:32:42 UTC  

get a gun

2018-09-06 10:32:48 UTC  

that sounds very familiar to how amsterdam is doing now btw (im from the NL)

2018-09-06 10:32:49 UTC  

dont pay your taxes

2018-09-06 10:33:03 UTC  

Well I do want to tackle the concept of “toxic masculinity” a bit wol. Because I could take concept you mentioned to such extremes that they are destructive instead of something as nice as what you mentioned.

2018-09-06 10:33:21 UTC  

I'm not gonna be another bitch who sings and stands around doing nothing. That's what inspired me to step up, yknow? Seeing all these fucking assholes singing a bit, acting fake-deep and then openly admitting that they're just doing it for drug money and girls

2018-09-06 10:33:24 UTC  

get a gun for self defense and to what ever you can to avoid paying taxes

2018-09-06 10:33:26 UTC  

fuck the system

2018-09-06 10:33:36 UTC  

No

2018-09-06 10:33:40 UTC  

Not fuck the system, FIX the system

2018-09-06 10:33:43 UTC  

Yes britain, terrorists blowing themselves up for their faith (because they see it as right) is a flaw in what i said

2018-09-06 10:33:45 UTC  

Anarchism is retarded and counterproductive

2018-09-06 10:33:54 UTC  

and antifa etc

2018-09-06 10:33:54 UTC  

system needs to be rebuilt

2018-09-06 10:33:58 UTC  

for that it needs to crash

2018-09-06 10:34:00 UTC  

It just leads to a kratocracy

2018-09-06 10:34:20 UTC  

corruption has grown roots into the gobt

2018-09-06 10:34:33 UTC  

No

2018-09-06 10:34:35 UTC  

Heres the main Issue though Cipher, You need a solution, not a goal

2018-09-06 10:34:59 UTC  

elections are slow

2018-09-06 10:35:05 UTC  

@Vigil well in that case, i'd just not try to worry too much about changing people or the world. still have the mindset of improving it in any way you can, but dont beat urself up over the fact that many people surrounding you dont have this vision.
i think its rare, maybe for your age or your enviroment.
try to find some like minded individuals, maybe start a book club, networking etc

2018-09-06 10:35:15 UTC  

A goal is a good starting point though

2018-09-06 10:35:19 UTC  

I feel you, Aghost

2018-09-06 10:35:37 UTC  

A solution... I'll get there. I still need to self educate to the point where I can start proposing solutions

2018-09-06 10:35:39 UTC  

a goal is bad, a goal is too vague and can become tainted

2018-09-06 10:36:21 UTC  

Well what is a solution without a goal then?

2018-09-06 10:36:38 UTC  

a solution without a goal is a fix 😉

2018-09-06 10:36:52 UTC  

I'm a nineteen year old who up until two years ago couldn't operate a toaster due to my overprotective mom, yknow? My knowledge is decent but I still need to learn practical skills and how the world works in order to not make things worse for the people I wanna represent

2018-09-06 10:37:18 UTC  

I'm not doing anything until I'm ready to do anything because I don't want to let myself or the people I wish to help down

2018-09-06 10:37:46 UTC  

Remember this:
Lefties think in goals (We must get equality, stop racism) but they don't know how, just "we must achieve X"
Right wingers think in systems (We must have freedom so ideas can roam) but thats not inspirational

Ultimately both sides want the same thing, Improvement, but one wants to find Any fix to one problem, and the other wants One fix to any problem


Neither will work together as a result, find a solution in which you can get both working together

2018-09-06 10:38:06 UTC  

hence its a SOLUTION

2018-09-06 10:38:43 UTC  

Yeah but if someone sets fire to a house without reason, is that a solution?

2018-09-06 10:39:13 UTC  

Either way, people have more common ground than they think; we all want better. So the key is to remind people we're mostly a well-meaning people

2018-09-06 10:39:16 UTC  

a solution needs a reason, but it doesn't need a goal

2018-09-06 10:39:31 UTC  

Give people faith in each other again

2018-09-06 10:39:41 UTC  

And make abhorrent anyone who stands in the way of rationality and peace

2018-09-06 10:40:03 UTC  

hehe i had an overprotective mom as well :P hehe somewhat
yeah its rough man, i dont know exactly how it affected you, but i feel like i havent been out confronting chaos enough
if thats the case for you as well, then you might wanna try putting yourself in unfamiliar situations to correct it slowly

2018-09-06 10:40:06 UTC  

But not in a fascisty way, in a "Okay come back to the fold when you grow up but otherwise don't get involved" way