what should they do exactly? and what is it that you do, that makes you excempt from that category?

@da britian its Male pattern baldness, not just general baldness, MALE only 😛 so manly

It looks like three debates going on at once

It's not just *one* though. Like, they'll feel the same things, but nobody collaborates or tries to get people together to actively make change. Me? I try and get the word out on things, bring discussion to the table, work on action plans. But nobody wants to contribute, they wave it off as "Well WE can't do anything." Maybe we could, if we tried

>pretending certain women don't lose hair

smh omg

Cancer patients do

Lol

it happens to women as well just won't notice it as readily unless you look for it in 60+ group tbh

All old people lose hair

And young people with conditions like cancer or diabetes

male pattern baldness isn't "all over" though just the top

I'm actively self-educating, and getting my feelers out, learning as much as I can about the world and how it functions so I'm in an educated position to try and give myself a platform and give a voice to the people who do nothing, as well as promote active change through speaking with local representatives and getting discussion going on issues that matter but don't get attention, on top of challenging unhealthy aspects of society everyone accepts but I believe are problematic

if you have all over, its just general baldness

Well, at least, things that are accepted by the mainstream

fair point cipher :D

So why do you insult men as soy boys if that is the best you can hold up as being manly wol. It seems pretty worthless to hold that over them.

Its the internet Britain, I don't even KNOW anyone who actively promotes soy

tbh in my circle soyboy is a compliment

I'm not a little punk bitch who's gonna sing a bit then do nothing but snort coke and fuck fans, I'm actually gonna try and bring people together to make changes and not just talk about them. I wanna give more of a voice to the voiceless, and hope to the hopeless, yknow? As gay as that sounds. And I'm not saying I'm gonna SUCCEED, since that's a very big thing to say. But I'm here, making a dent. And if a few more people throw themselves at the wall, maybe something will stick

@Vigil so you talk about the problems? but do you actually do something about it?
you say you are in an educated position, thats kind of subjective, educated on what? not on organizing people it seems, you need specific skills, or a talent to be able to bring people together and actually do something good for the world, imo its very rare
most people just live their lives, and pretend that they are doing something good

idk where you guys are at but sounds kinda gay and outdated

If you wanna talk about genuine "manliness" its about willing to choose, and standing up for yourself, be confident

And you don't have to be a bodybuilder testosterone tank to do that

Soy people are a meme, not reality

@Dr.Wol i agree with this, i'd tip hat to you if i could over the internet.. and i had a hat to tip

what thing do you want to change anyway? it sounds so newspeak... "i wanna change the world", it sounds very utopian and adolescent like
which is fine, but... i dont wanna burst ur bubble, its hard to change things, and if you want to change something that other people think shouldnt be changed, then maybe ur in the wrong location. idk (i mean, maybe the surrounding people, are not like you, not that ur in the wrong place here)

Willing to stand up for waht is right,

Being prepared (and sometimes actively) sacrificing yourself so that other people don't have to

I'm still young, Aghost, so I'm still in the process of getting educated. I'm a vocalist and study philosophy, history, economics and politics in my own time. I'm only nineteen, so I'm still getting there, I start my degree in just under five weeks. But my goal is to actively try and tackle problems by bringing attention to them through my music and having a personal interaction with those in the general community as well as those who enjoy my music, to bring people together over things they might not have realised they had in common, encourage discussion and formulate a plan to actually get our collective voices heard by government through campaigning

Good point, I've been a little vague. Generally I want to promote values of freedom and intellectualism, since we're moving into a very reactionary and consumerist state as a society and people make quick judgements instead of investigating the validity of the information they take in

this seems like european hours,i wish all you reasonable and decent people fairwell and many good tidings i need to sleep

I'm in the UK for reference

i am so sorry

Most of my city is gang territory and the police have closed tons of stations, London has all the money, people are focusing on emotions and not looking racist more than actually tackling crime and other issues, and in general things are sliding downhill

hmm

get a gun

that sounds very familiar to how amsterdam is doing now btw (im from the NL)

dont pay your taxes

Well I do want to tackle the concept of “toxic masculinity” a bit wol. Because I could take concept you mentioned to such extremes that they are destructive instead of something as nice as what you mentioned.

I'm not gonna be another bitch who sings and stands around doing nothing. That's what inspired me to step up, yknow? Seeing all these fucking assholes singing a bit, acting fake-deep and then openly admitting that they're just doing it for drug money and girls

get a gun for self defense and to what ever you can to avoid paying taxes

fuck the system

No