Message from @TylerC

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2018-09-18 15:23:51 UTC  

ya that is what would happen next, the seizures

2018-09-18 15:23:57 UTC  

and we know how that goes

2018-09-18 15:23:57 UTC  

They wouldn't be able to claim it.

2018-09-18 15:24:14 UTC  

Seizing a foreign nation's company and trying to claim that debt makes it invalid.

2018-09-18 15:24:30 UTC  

The debt would be defaulted, leading to United States being free from it.

2018-09-18 15:24:42 UTC  

If China goes bankrupt, they'll need bail-out money from the US which they'll get, in exchange for removing the debts, and adding to the debt China has to the US

2018-09-18 15:25:04 UTC  

which they'll pay off slowly cuz the low economy, causes a boom in industry cuz they're cheap now

2018-09-18 15:25:11 UTC  

investors will flood to China, making it wealthy again, to pay off the US

2018-09-18 15:25:24 UTC  

ima bail out now 😛

2018-09-18 15:26:00 UTC  

i think what doc says makes a bit more sense to play out

2018-09-18 15:26:19 UTC  

Dusty i think you are looking at it from a consumer debt point of view

2018-09-18 15:26:30 UTC  

i dont believe a nations debt works the same

2018-09-18 15:26:37 UTC  

i could be way off

2018-09-18 15:27:10 UTC  

but i do think a trade of canceling debt for relief money is the likely scenerio

2018-09-18 15:27:33 UTC  

or the relief money wil just be the repayment not really a canceling

2018-09-18 15:27:37 UTC  

the question is

2018-09-18 15:27:47 UTC  

do we really have enough to prop up china if we have to?

2018-09-18 15:27:58 UTC  

i think that is a much bigger question

2018-09-18 15:28:36 UTC  

im not so sure we do

2018-09-18 15:29:52 UTC  

oh lord. europe would probably have to chip in too i bet

2018-09-18 15:30:23 UTC  

at the very least

2018-09-18 15:30:40 UTC  

would likely take the whole world chipping in to stop the collapse if it came to that point

2018-09-18 15:32:05 UTC  

Besides I don't think China would sell off debt, even if their economy collapses.

2018-09-18 15:32:25 UTC  

Pegging their Currency to ours aka Debt keeps their currency afloat.

2018-09-18 15:32:36 UTC  

yes

2018-09-18 15:32:53 UTC  

im not 100% sure about this, but didnt trump make a move recently to stop that practice?

2018-09-18 15:32:58 UTC  

i thought i had heard something about that

2018-09-18 15:33:02 UTC  

Sell off that Debt ensures they will have no way to regrow economy.

2018-09-18 15:33:23 UTC  

No he didn't. He did place 200 billion tarrifs on China.

2018-09-18 15:33:25 UTC  

this isn't a topic I know much about, but why would we want to save the oppressive communist government in China?

2018-09-18 15:33:50 UTC  

Anyways AFK.

2018-09-18 15:34:49 UTC  

@madchatter because they own a sizable chunk of our debt, and make all of our cheap items

2018-09-18 15:34:55 UTC  

in a nutshell

2018-09-18 15:35:14 UTC  

those are the 2 biggest reasons for us as americans

2018-09-18 15:35:47 UTC  

it'd be better for them to rebuild as a free country, though

2018-09-18 15:36:41 UTC  

what would we do while we wait for that to happen though

2018-09-18 15:36:56 UTC  

thats at the fastest possible, like a 5 year move

2018-09-18 15:37:18 UTC  

plus, as long as they're communist, they will have increasing problems (housing situation for normal citizens is terrible there)

2018-09-18 15:37:55 UTC  

i had someone the other day try to tell me china didnt count as communist anymore... i was like wait what?

2018-09-18 15:38:20 UTC  

I guess it feels like a dick move to prop up the communist government for our own benefit

2018-09-18 15:38:44 UTC  

ya that is the problem i have always had with out relationship with china to begin with