Message from @Grenade123

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2018-09-26 03:52:42 UTC  

He is the first president I am actually proud of.

2018-09-26 03:52:45 UTC  

To be honest.

2018-09-26 03:52:47 UTC  

The unified national identity you might have seen in the '90s (if the documents are accurate, I was three years old last time it was the '90s) would be a bullwark against it

2018-09-26 03:52:52 UTC  

Unions are Democratic because democrats are the only ones that protect them

2018-09-26 03:52:55 UTC  

Even if he is a flipping idiot majority of the times.

2018-09-26 03:53:24 UTC  

people were pretty supportive, even if their disagreement with, the Iraq war

2018-09-26 03:53:49 UTC  

like most people would support the troops and stuff.

2018-09-26 03:54:05 UTC  

more so after 9/11

2018-09-26 03:54:21 UTC  

We were divided.

2018-09-26 03:54:28 UTC  

It was because of 9/11 people came together.

2018-09-26 03:54:43 UTC  

An natural tragedy tends to bring people together.

2018-09-26 03:54:54 UTC  

I mean, some of the erosion on that front is the understandable (warranted) public understanding that the military is now big business, and today it is _very corrupt_ big business.

2018-09-26 03:55:07 UTC  

and the Conspiracy nuts mean that is bad

2018-09-26 03:55:16 UTC  

because the deterrent of deep, soul-eroding shame for "profiteers" of war is apparently no longer a thing

2018-09-26 03:55:35 UTC  

though I suppose many people have been unfairly tarred as "profiteers"

2018-09-26 03:55:56 UTC  

its not fair to accost foot soldiers

2018-09-26 03:55:58 UTC  

Ultimately Blackwater was the SpaceX of ~~killing the enemies of the state~~ securing the priorities of the state, through force if necessary.

2018-09-26 03:56:12 UTC  

for the orders of their superiors who make all the moneyt

2018-09-26 03:56:19 UTC  

and fight non of the battles

2018-09-26 03:57:32 UTC  

you can call them niave, brainwashed, or fooled. but most have a noble cause that has been abused

2018-09-26 03:58:02 UTC  

unfortunately the left is going back to the "baby killer" days of Vietnam

2018-09-26 03:58:16 UTC  

Honestly I think most of the immorality stems from the fact that major contracts are not often awarded solely on the merits if the supplier

2018-09-26 03:58:32 UTC  

Nor are RFPs drafted toward the genuine priorities of the military.

2018-09-26 03:58:37 UTC  

government contract go the the lowest bidder

2018-09-26 03:58:42 UTC  

Sorta

2018-09-26 03:58:56 UTC  

who then fuck up and balloon costs or straight up lied

2018-09-26 03:59:00 UTC  

of course, the state ensures who can bid the lowest for it by paying them through the backdoor

2018-09-26 03:59:15 UTC  

and yes, leaving it open for ex-post-facto increases

2018-09-26 03:59:33 UTC  

when the _sunk cost fallacy_ becomes an effective tool for marketing the renegotiation of these contracts.

2018-09-26 03:59:40 UTC  

That's how we get the F35

2018-09-26 03:59:51 UTC  

the most useless, and most expensive, airplane ever built.

2018-09-26 04:00:19 UTC  

At least the airplanes at RedBull Flugtag don't cost the taxpayer more than a trillion dollars, and somebody gets some joy from them.

2018-09-26 04:00:55 UTC  

I’m just saying, I was interested in analyzing trump’s 30 minute UN speech.

2018-09-26 04:01:01 UTC  

Sometime tomorrow?

2018-09-26 04:01:31 UTC  

If you have a transcript, put it up on google docs or whatever and see if we can gather some annotations

2018-09-26 04:01:32 UTC  

ironically all the time spent on the f35 is making it also the only option

2018-09-26 04:01:41 UTC  

That’s a good idea

2018-09-26 04:01:43 UTC  

@Grenade123 that's not true either

2018-09-26 04:01:51 UTC  

@Grenade123 it's _still_ not a true sunk cost

2018-09-26 04:01:57 UTC  

well i mean you can buy from russia or china

2018-09-26 04:02:18 UTC  

They don't need this class of aircraft