Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-30 17:19:54 UTC  

I can't demand higher wages.

2018-09-30 17:20:00 UTC  

To be honest I wasn't too hyped about free college but still thought Bernie was way better than Hillary and had a better view on healthcare than Trump

2018-09-30 17:20:01 UTC  

Right, I am not asking for regressive goals labeled progressive, I am asking for actual progressive goals.

2018-09-30 17:20:42 UTC  

And Bernie showed he wasn't a bleeding heart faggot when asked about ICE which is good.

2018-09-30 17:20:57 UTC  

Free college seems to be the real rallying cry right now. As is unlimited open immigration.

2018-09-30 17:21:01 UTC  

Shrink gubment

2018-09-30 17:21:24 UTC  

there are no actual progressive goals,

Things are pretty solidly stable under normal society, Racism is at an all time low, crime is low, sickness is low

Only thing that can get better is that people would study actual USEFUL degrees and use that to help upgrade society with technological improvement

2018-09-30 17:21:45 UTC  

Yeah fuck the free college people. They want to brainwash centrists.

2018-09-30 17:21:48 UTC  

*SHRINK GUBMENT*

2018-09-30 17:21:55 UTC  

As opposed to every loser picking "Gender studies" or some other degree in knitting, and then wondering why no one hires them and they end up pouring piss-water at starbucks

2018-09-30 17:22:00 UTC  

But you can't say that everything is working well and still have perpetual revolution. Everything MUST be terrible to justify perpetual revolution.

2018-09-30 17:22:04 UTC  

hating society for having cheated them with a useless degree

2018-09-30 17:22:05 UTC  

well there is no such thing as free college, unless we are bringing back slavery...even that has a cost.

2018-09-30 17:22:12 UTC  

and serving the next generation of wankers that take useless degrees

2018-09-30 17:22:27 UTC  

I think certification programs for autodidacts should be funded instead

2018-09-30 17:23:01 UTC  

Exactly @Atkins , thats where we are now, so people are inventing new "terribleness" like wage gaps etc to justify their moral outrage

2018-09-30 17:23:20 UTC  

Also the idea of free college isn't bad, hear me out

2018-09-30 17:23:45 UTC  

I know what you're going to say.

2018-09-30 17:24:20 UTC  

to me is seems most of the actual progressive ideas, are coming from the right.

2018-09-30 17:24:26 UTC  

But this won't be free college to those people who meet the high meritocratic standard, this will be free college for everyone regardless of grades and regardless of market demand for their degree.

2018-09-30 17:24:32 UTC  

It has to be free college for useful degrees though,

If you can get a generation of actual tech-savvy people to fill the void, you dont have to import outsiders,

And their contributions will increase the value of your nations GDP due to technological improvements, meaning everyone starts making better money because you become the powerhouse economy due to having a lot of competition on high-end degrees

2018-09-30 17:24:41 UTC  

abortion, limited government, free trade (not corporatism), etc.

2018-09-30 17:24:46 UTC  

They specifically don't want that.

2018-09-30 17:24:52 UTC  

I'm for easing the crippling burden of student debt but I also think people who've gotted degrees in the insanely corrupted modern liberal arts should have to deal with the consequences of spending their time on something so pointless.

2018-09-30 17:24:53 UTC  

They want free for everyone with no qualifiers.

2018-09-30 17:25:02 UTC  

and thats why i'm against it @Atkins 😛

2018-09-30 17:25:20 UTC  

cuz they're pissing away taxdollars on useless degrees that end up costing us more than they add

2018-09-30 17:25:43 UTC  

I'm fine with like, a President Bernie Sanders saying free college because I don't think he's gonna make it happen from the executive branch

2018-09-30 17:26:05 UTC  

this is why big government is bad,

A corporation can't make bad decisions or they'll go bankrupt and fail

If a Government makes a bad decision, well the taxpayers can just pay for the loss, and you start anew

2018-09-30 17:26:27 UTC  

Sanders is a socialist, he'll make it happen from executive cuz its all central control

2018-09-30 17:26:42 UTC  

A government makes a bad decision and your currency hyperinflates, punishing those who invest and save.

2018-09-30 17:26:58 UTC  

But from the bully pulpit of the POTUS seat, you can say we need to do something about crippling student debt and it becomes part of the mainstream narrative, which is a good thing.

2018-09-30 17:28:03 UTC  

Want to fix student debt? Make it dischargable in bankruptcy proceedings, and allow banks to refuse to issue student loans based on degree and grades.

2018-09-30 17:28:18 UTC  

crippling student debt is all facebook 18-30 year olds talk about,

its already a mainstream narrative, but no one in government cares cuz the Dems see it as a way to get votes,
And the Reps see it as a way of forcing you to keep paying banks

2018-09-30 17:29:01 UTC  

Wew

2018-09-30 17:29:42 UTC  

Dems: You got student debt? okay vote for me and i'll use your own taxpayer money, minus administration fee, to pay you back a small share to help pay it off

Reps: You got student debt? okay vote for me and i'll make sure you can loan a lot more from banks because your economic prospects are higher due to lower taxes, but you'll have to pay back more

Schools: Oh you got more money? Good we can raise prices and hire more school administration and diversity hires for a good reputation

2018-09-30 17:30:13 UTC  

I'm in indentured servitude now because I put myself in debt getting a doctorate in Gender Studies, this system needs to be toppled!

2018-09-30 17:30:47 UTC  

someone hand me my cattle-prod, we gotta bring Neptune back into the waking world 😛

2018-09-30 17:31:06 UTC  

students: might be a good idea to tell schools to fuck off and do my own thing...stick it to the system

2018-09-30 17:31:23 UTC  

Bank: You want us to loan you $100,000 for a degree in Sociology? Are you in the top 0.01% of students? No? Get the fuck out.