Two wars without an endgame, one has positive knock-on effects one doesn't.

got drones out of it

Hooray, now the drones can smash my shit up when they deliver it

How about instead of taking a trillion dollars in taxes from citizens every year and spending it on a never-ending war, we let the taxpayers keep it.

but that would solve issues

and you cant campaign on solved issues

That's part of what was saying earlier about progressivism. It's perpetual revolution. There always has to be some new fight to justify the existence of the movement.

You can't ever say "things are pretty good".

Everything has to be FUCKING AWFUL.

Tax money isn't enough for single payer, it'd have to involve some sort of quantitative easing or MMT

I'm curious, what is a current progressive goal?

Free post-secondary.

White Extinction

rofl

lol

college being free is progress? Didn't someone define it as something that lifts all of us up?

current Progressive goal is one of the next 3:

- to make sure that everyone is exactly equal
Problem is that the only thing everyone can have equal in abundance is misery

- All for me and none for thee

- I need to cover my past crimes as a sex offender with minors

If I have a college degree and only a few other people have them, that makes me valuable compared to other people. If I have a college degree and everyone has one, that means I'm just the same as everyone else.

I can't demand higher wages.

To be honest I wasn't too hyped about free college but still thought Bernie was way better than Hillary and had a better view on healthcare than Trump

Right, I am not asking for regressive goals labeled progressive, I am asking for actual progressive goals.

And Bernie showed he wasn't a bleeding heart faggot when asked about ICE which is good.

Free college seems to be the real rallying cry right now. As is unlimited open immigration.

Shrink gubment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXOaH12X5g

there are no actual progressive goals,

Things are pretty solidly stable under normal society, Racism is at an all time low, crime is low, sickness is low

Only thing that can get better is that people would study actual USEFUL degrees and use that to help upgrade society with technological improvement

Yeah fuck the free college people. They want to brainwash centrists.

*SHRINK GUBMENT*

As opposed to every loser picking "Gender studies" or some other degree in knitting, and then wondering why no one hires them and they end up pouring piss-water at starbucks

But you can't say that everything is working well and still have perpetual revolution. Everything MUST be terrible to justify perpetual revolution.

hating society for having cheated them with a useless degree

well there is no such thing as free college, unless we are bringing back slavery...even that has a cost.

and serving the next generation of wankers that take useless degrees

I think certification programs for autodidacts should be funded instead

Exactly @Atkins , thats where we are now, so people are inventing new "terribleness" like wage gaps etc to justify their moral outrage

Also the idea of free college isn't bad, hear me out

I know what you're going to say.

to me is seems most of the actual progressive ideas, are coming from the right.

But this won't be free college to those people who meet the high meritocratic standard, this will be free college for everyone regardless of grades and regardless of market demand for their degree.

It has to be free college for useful degrees though,

If you can get a generation of actual tech-savvy people to fill the void, you dont have to import outsiders,

And their contributions will increase the value of your nations GDP due to technological improvements, meaning everyone starts making better money because you become the powerhouse economy due to having a lot of competition on high-end degrees

abortion, limited government, free trade (not corporatism), etc.