Message from @Scribblehatch

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2018-10-01 22:08:02 UTC  

That is merely dishonest

2018-10-01 22:08:09 UTC  

No I'm conflating radicals with the most pure enactment of social justice.

2018-10-01 22:08:24 UTC  

forcing equality of outcome because that's "fair"

2018-10-01 22:08:28 UTC  

You'd still be wrong

2018-10-01 22:08:40 UTC  

"You can't be racist against whites" was the last drop

2018-10-01 22:08:43 UTC  

The radicals here, have a fucked up world view in the first place

2018-10-01 22:08:56 UTC  

that's equity, because you can say "it's about equity" and they can say "it's about equity" and you're both being honest

2018-10-01 22:09:02 UTC  

Based on derrada and foucalt

2018-10-01 22:09:19 UTC  

Where the world is based on systems of power

2018-10-01 22:09:19 UTC  

because nebulous bullshit can be used for good and bad, again like the religion comparison

2018-10-01 22:09:50 UTC  

but the nebulous bullshit boils down to "acquiring justice for people through means other than the actual justice system"

2018-10-01 22:10:08 UTC  

See, I'd describe a good social justice advocate as people like Stephen fry, or MLK

2018-10-01 22:10:20 UTC  

stephen fry is not a fucking social justice advocate

2018-10-01 22:10:24 UTC  

The bad ones, someone like PZ Myers

2018-10-01 22:10:31 UTC  

PZ myers is

2018-10-01 22:10:38 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos He classifies himself as such

2018-10-01 22:10:48 UTC  

He said good social justice, you dink.

2018-10-01 22:10:56 UTC  

His openning statement on the munk debate

2018-10-01 22:11:00 UTC  

there is no such thing as good social justice

2018-10-01 22:11:06 UTC  

that's like dry water or cold fire

2018-10-01 22:11:07 UTC  

😐

2018-10-01 22:11:08 UTC  

Then you are dishonest.

2018-10-01 22:11:10 UTC  

Don't be obtuse.

2018-10-01 22:11:31 UTC  

it's like *ethical child porn*(you guys might not get the Destiny reference there)

2018-10-01 22:11:41 UTC  

Don't be obtuse.

2018-10-01 22:11:49 UTC  

says the person repeating themselves.

2018-10-01 22:12:01 UTC  

I wouldn't have to.

2018-10-01 22:12:05 UTC  

But you continued.

2018-10-01 22:12:15 UTC  

Social justice is a cancer. The only good social justice is no social justice.

2018-10-01 22:12:32 UTC  

Anything that purports to be "justice" besides actual justice is garbage

2018-10-01 22:12:45 UTC  

Yo folks if Social Justice is a religion then Tim is agnostic? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-10-01 22:12:47 UTC  

~~: Prove me wrong.~~

2018-10-01 22:13:22 UTC  

sorry, that's not the meme

2018-10-01 22:13:25 UTC  

: Change my mind.

2018-10-01 22:14:25 UTC  

Equality of opportunity existed before "social justice". Equality of outcome is what social justice was created for.

2018-10-01 22:14:49 UTC  

No that's communism

2018-10-01 22:14:50 UTC  

He and you are wrong if you think it's about equality of opportunity.

2018-10-01 22:14:55 UTC  

Vague definitions is a problem. I've noticed that SJW people don't think equality of opportunity and outcome are different. If I remember correctly Thomas Smith said he was for equality of opportunity, but when pressed on it he said we measure equality of opportunity by the outcomes. Sorry, I might be side tracking the discussion you guys were having.

2018-10-01 22:14:55 UTC  

Same thing.

2018-10-01 22:15:47 UTC  

Well people having terrible understanding of *language and therefore terrible conclusions is pretty typical, which again is why I think he's arrived at a bad definition of social justice.

2018-10-01 22:16:28 UTC  

He's pretty reasonable so I don't think he's got bad logical processes