Message from @pratel
Discord ID: 498137962555506689
I am not yelling AT you.
I am more ... yelling at the collective human stupidity.
I just want a feasible solution. Not prosecuting these cases isn't one of them.
Maybe an entirely anonymous secret system of accusations and courts
Yes, it IS a solutin.
It is the only solution.
No evidence? Fuck off then.
Where the Jury and the judge only hears the statements and doesn't know who the accuser and the accused are
The whole reason why we think that way is because we cannot hold women accountable.
I think that might help
If child abduction was a problem, we would investigate better, and not let our kids walk out at night.
Lowering the standards of evidence would be the LAST thing we should do.
Think of it this way. Imagine the kav case, except no one knew who either the accuser or the accused were
The only thing put out would be the statements and evidence
Is child abduction hard to prove if there is no evidence? Yes!
Would I be pissed if I thought I knew who abducted my child and couldn't prove it? Yes!
The case would have been proven long ago
But that is what our justice system is for: To go on evidence and follow due process, not to satisfy your thirst for revenge of who you perceive wronged you.
Undead Mockingbird's rule for rape prosecution:
No fucking evidence? No fucking prosecution!
Cases being behind closed doors has precedent, but it's very narrow. The 6th amendment guarantees a public trial.
Europe has very private court cases and it sorta works.
The reason for public trials is to insure transparency and avoid a China scenario.
There are ways to run these trials and keep details sealed (in a way that's 6th amendment compliant).
Think cases done like 4chan
And the only people who're allowed to know the accuser and the accused are the defendant and prosecutor
That's not really practical.
I haven't thought it out
You would be able to peice together who the people are based on presented evidence.
Like, if there's addresses for example.
Or vehicles involved.
With license plates.
It would be extremely hard to censor enough to prevent court watchers from figuring out who's being talked about.
There are ways to frame things without revealing enough info to find the people
Not really.
You can hide for a little while.
But as evidence enters, it becomes dramatically harder with each new piece of evidence.
It's really not hard to unmask someone if you've got the time, money and know-how.
4chan and discord are hard because no one is volunteering anything and lies and trolls are rampant.
But as soon as people start talking neighborhoods. And people start disappearing from work to make testimonies...
Really not hard to figure out the parties involved.
According to WaPo the only data on false accusations puts it at 7%
If that is based on all occurrences there should be 70 little people not 2
There should be 400 people for reported and around 370 for faced trial.
30 of them would be jailed
Which is actually scary when you consider more innocent people are suffering than rapists are actually being jailed.
Not sure how to fix that but... damn...
I searched the innocence project database
362 people exonerated of crimes they did not commit
267 of the cases invovled rape
around 73% of the innocence project dealt with exonerating false rape convictions
So that's different than a "rape culture" which is what it's trying to convey
Imo