Yes.

Maybe we should rally around those values for a change.

so how do we then break that down?

Get more people to speak up by protecting them from the SJW mob.

I don't feel like we're straight up on a losing streak right now.

I think Peterson actually has the right trajectory- we focus on self stability and work outwards

Personal connections + a large amount of people simply talking and willing to still be cool despite disagreeing.

Maybe a few phyrric victories here and there

Their mobs are their strongest weapon - once that is no longer effective, they lost.

yeah I think Trump is offering you a nice safe span of time to get set up

Internet kills mobs because accountability and doxxing

You can rally around values without being collectivist.

Following the scientific method does not make chemists Marxist.

I would say, keep politically active, but worry less about the media blitz and more about keeping alternative channels open

I think that is a fundamental mischaracterization.

@Beemann Agreed

that distinction was already made, @Undead Mockingbird

but the one thing being stated is that by no means is the solution to fight back along the same lines

Employers need to sack up before we can progress.

"Oh noooo... You're being maligned. Get awayyyyy!! >A<"

Employers will "sack up" when there's social pressure for them to do so

"G-get away from meeeee!"

Then I don't understand why what I said earlier was interpreted to imply we should replace one form of collectivism with another, simply for showing some solidarity in public.

Just imagine Smee's voice, as the voice of all employers

you cant just reee at them and expect progress

it depends on what you mean by "solidarity in public"

Lindsay Graham has been a fantastic boi.

I'd never heard of him, but apparently he was very unpopular until now.

He was on the never-trump train

I feel like what I am sayng keeps being made into a strawman - when, for heaven's sake, did I say we should ree at them?

he's on board now

but they've finally come around.

I was responding to Scrib

Oh lord isn't he.

Solidarity doesn't have to mean blindly accepting that which you disagree with. You can and should call out your own side if they do some stupid shit.

'Maybe we should throw him in water, see if he floats?'

```Employers will "sack up" when there's social pressure for them to do so```

I brought up a very concrete example, that of Jordan Peterson.

Social pressure is what they need to SACK UP against.

How is growing a spine and getting your balls out of your purse being collectivist?

People are fucking pathetic, holy shit.