Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-10-17 06:20:37 UTC  

The fact is if they try it

2018-10-17 06:20:45 UTC  

They should be punished to the full extent of the law.

2018-10-17 06:20:50 UTC  

No exceptions, no excuses.

2018-10-17 06:20:53 UTC  

@aukkras Hulu said not to culturally appropriate during halloween

2018-10-17 06:20:59 UTC  

so they can preach and defend it but it's okay as long as they aren't proven to copy it?

2018-10-17 06:21:15 UTC  

That basically sums up free speech, yes.

2018-10-17 06:21:33 UTC  

golly

2018-10-17 06:21:35 UTC  

And that's principles for you.

2018-10-17 06:21:41 UTC  

i agree with your principle

2018-10-17 06:21:48 UTC  

It's not always easy

2018-10-17 06:21:53 UTC  

But it's undeniably right.

2018-10-17 06:22:12 UTC  

but then we would be justified in watching people who identify with crazy ideas like that

2018-10-17 06:22:29 UTC  

ergo, we are justified in spying on all muslims if they say they worship a pedophilic warmonger

2018-10-17 06:22:37 UTC  

Free and open speech isn't for the sake of bad ideas to proliferate.

2018-10-17 06:22:48 UTC  

It's for the sake of bad ideas to be easily spotted.

2018-10-17 06:23:04 UTC  

If you silence a Nazi, you will lose track of them.

2018-10-17 06:23:18 UTC  

And that's when they're most dangerous.

2018-10-17 06:23:23 UTC  

yeah

2018-10-17 06:23:45 UTC  

Openly ridicule them and their ideas if you like

2018-10-17 06:23:50 UTC  

but there is a downside

2018-10-17 06:24:00 UTC  

But only actually *PUNISH* them if they act.

2018-10-17 06:24:42 UTC  

And when you punish them, make sure it's on a standard you would punish anyone else on.

2018-10-17 06:24:57 UTC  

Universality.

2018-10-17 06:25:00 UTC  

I'd base it on what I'd be okay with being punished on

2018-10-17 06:25:14 UTC  

I mean, that's a weird way to put it.

2018-10-17 06:25:20 UTC  

Usually people aren't okay with being punished

2018-10-17 06:25:25 UTC  

But you get the idea of it.

2018-10-17 06:25:40 UTC  

That is, if I suddenly decided to rape a child and force them to marry me, and guide an entire culture and religion to worship me

2018-10-17 06:25:57 UTC  

i'd also expect a very harsh punishment

2018-10-17 06:26:14 UTC  

The point is to develop a set of values that can't be used against you in a destructive way.

2018-10-17 06:26:22 UTC  

against me?

2018-10-17 06:27:00 UTC  

is there some sense of self preservation in our ethics and logic?

2018-10-17 06:27:10 UTC  

i thought it was all about the greater good

2018-10-17 06:27:15 UTC  

In a sense.

2018-10-17 06:27:35 UTC  

It's a counter point to the Left.

2018-10-17 06:27:41 UTC  

as in democrats?

2018-10-17 06:27:52 UTC  

Well, kind of.

2018-10-17 06:27:59 UTC  

The modern left in general.

2018-10-17 06:28:03 UTC  

right

2018-10-17 06:28:04 UTC  

They eat their own because they're unprincipled.

2018-10-17 06:28:13 UTC  

so, social justice warriors gone fascist