but then we would be justified in watching people who identify with crazy ideas like that

ergo, we are justified in spying on all muslims if they say they worship a pedophilic warmonger

Free and open speech isn't for the sake of bad ideas to proliferate.

It's for the sake of bad ideas to be easily spotted.

If you silence a Nazi, you will lose track of them.

And that's when they're most dangerous.

yeah

Openly ridicule them and their ideas if you like

but there is a downside

But only actually *PUNISH* them if they act.

And when you punish them, make sure it's on a standard you would punish anyone else on.

Universality.

I'd base it on what I'd be okay with being punished on

I mean, that's a weird way to put it.

Usually people aren't okay with being punished

But you get the idea of it.

That is, if I suddenly decided to rape a child and force them to marry me, and guide an entire culture and religion to worship me

i'd also expect a very harsh punishment

The point is to develop a set of values that can't be used against you in a destructive way.

against me?

is there some sense of self preservation in our ethics and logic?

i thought it was all about the greater good

In a sense.

It's a counter point to the Left.

as in democrats?

Well, kind of.

The modern left in general.

right

They eat their own because they're unprincipled.

so, social justice warriors gone fascist

They create rules based on circumstances, not on anything universal.

The rules change constantly.

PC culture isn't based on any actual principle.

it's hard covering stories where i'm basically not allowed to have an opinion

i envy tim for that

They decided Black wasn't allowed, so they moved to Colored. Then that wasn't acceptable, so they moved to African American. That wasn't acceptable, so they moved to People of Color

right.

because that's so much better than 'Colored People' which is definitely not allowed.

"people of color" is the most blatant anti-white bullshit

they may as well say "non-white"

'Black and Brown bodies'.