But you miss the point.

They can believe this happened. They can believe it's okay. I really don't care.

there could be a religion that is literally made to be satanic or evil to a cartoonish degree

The fact is if they try it

They should be punished to the full extent of the law.

No exceptions, no excuses.

@aukkras Hulu said not to culturally appropriate during halloween

so they can preach and defend it but it's okay as long as they aren't proven to copy it?

That basically sums up free speech, yes.

golly

And that's principles for you.

i agree with your principle

It's not always easy

But it's undeniably right.

but then we would be justified in watching people who identify with crazy ideas like that

ergo, we are justified in spying on all muslims if they say they worship a pedophilic warmonger

Free and open speech isn't for the sake of bad ideas to proliferate.

It's for the sake of bad ideas to be easily spotted.

If you silence a Nazi, you will lose track of them.

And that's when they're most dangerous.

yeah

Openly ridicule them and their ideas if you like

but there is a downside

But only actually *PUNISH* them if they act.

And when you punish them, make sure it's on a standard you would punish anyone else on.

Universality.

I'd base it on what I'd be okay with being punished on

I mean, that's a weird way to put it.

Usually people aren't okay with being punished

But you get the idea of it.

That is, if I suddenly decided to rape a child and force them to marry me, and guide an entire culture and religion to worship me

i'd also expect a very harsh punishment

The point is to develop a set of values that can't be used against you in a destructive way.

against me?

is there some sense of self preservation in our ethics and logic?

i thought it was all about the greater good

In a sense.

It's a counter point to the Left.

as in democrats?

Well, kind of.

The modern left in general.