Biden?

@Lidomite That ideology did come from the Frankfurt school so they created it. I'm not saying that its that demographic as a whole but a certain subsect.

@EN Because its relevant in this chat.

So it's not relevant in the other

Just needed an answer to the question.

I knew I'd get a meme answer in the other so I posted the same here to get a sensible answer.

@everybodydothatdinosaur When you have only one requirement of defeating Trump and executing him on the White House lawn, you suddenly have the problem of not thinking of anything else.

This is the problem with the Democrats.

And why the elite has had their oh shit moment.

There's a sizeable population of Ashkenazi Jews from Russia in Denver who are decidedly *not* pro-abortion. I think you might be mixing up "I have noticed some of these people overlap" with "one of these groups totally overlaps with the other".

The Weinsteins are pro-abortion because they want people to watch their shit movies rather than raise children.

(Weinsteins standing for Hollywood Jew)

I think it might basically just be the same spectrum as with Christians- the more fundamentalist, the less inclined they are to approve of abortion. The people who won't open library books on Saturday are probably not in the same group as the Weinsteins.

Well I do believe pro-abortion stances come from a fundamentalist view as well.

Hm, how so?

The cult of Feminism.

Not really fundamentalist, though. They are still distilling their tenets.

No fundamentals to return or hold to.

That depends on one factor.

Are we using pro-abortion as a stand in for pro-choice or the radical encouragement of abortion?

Not sure, I didn't start that, I just brought up an example of a group that met the stated filter and in no definition would qualify as pro-abortion. I was mostly addressing an over-broad generalization.

So, whichever you mean.

Well there is a need to make a clear difference between the two.

I believe that pro-abortion should refer to the radical encouragement of abortion.

Fair.

Okay, going with that definition for the purposes of this conversation. Please continue.

It always did annoy me that people equated "choice" with "abortion", so I like the distinction.

Basically the idea is the ideological belief that pregnancy is not natural but oppression of women by men.

Which is a tenet of several subsets of radical feminism, yes.

It might not be a fully conscious concept stated yet but this is the only Rational conclusion to their radical encouragement.

I think we might be differing on the definition of "fundamentalist" more than anything else.

Radicalized and fundamentalist aren't synonyms, even though you see them used that way a lot when discussing religions lately.

But modern Feminism is a religion.

Cult. No religious aspects as an overall phenomenon yet.

Not all cults are religions.

There are plenty of neopagan woo variants, but they aren't core (yet).

They are core. Its just a matter of admitting it.

You don't have to be a relgion to have fundamentalism, though, so it's a moot point either way.

But yeah, all the current talking points about abortion is abhorrent.

It is slowly turning me pro-life.

"Clumps of cells"