Frequently, yeah.

When they can actually present them in a smart way.

It would be like letting Donald Trump do the pro-life argument.

LOl

Sorry, just picturing that.

Not laughing at you.

But that is how it is like isn't it?

Just constant Donald Trump quality arguments.

And this isn't a knock on his intelligence.

Just how he goes about explaining his points.

"Lottas Babies, lottas corpses. You should see the abortion clinics. It is like stepping into a German Nursery for Jews. Really bad stuff."

The Left's arguments tend to boil to...

"But this is an inconvenient situation therefore I should be allowed to do X because I am special."

Now my personal belief in abortion is this.

I will let women decide if it should be legal or not.

But if they can kill a kid, I should be able to leave it without giving them money all the time.

> Pro-Life is suddenly a feminist position.

I'm all for parity, but I actually don't think "my body, my choice" carries once someone has gotten pregnant. Guys need affirmative rights in the situation as well as negative. Getting the right to opt out would be a good start, though.

Well I think that is a tricky one.

Obviously, rape and the like need to be taken into account as well, of course.

(and yes, I posess a uterus and the ability to get pregnant)

I don't think you should be able to force a woman to go through the pains of pregnancy if we want to allow the choice.

Once this subject and my position on it come up, that usually becomes relevant in someone's mind.

I would just say

I actually think there are some situations in which the fact that the woman had procreative sex was when she consented.

Note, "some".

A topic of this nature can't block out half of society.

Because if you do so, you create radical abortion clinic bombers.

Because they think abortion is murder.

Now, similar to the guy, I think she should have the option to walk away, but the thorny issues have to do with the fact that there are actually three people involved in the situation, and they all have different interests depending on the specifics.

Do you want to know the ultimate progressive talking point?

And right now it's basically two that are being discussed, and generally in an "all or nothing" kind of way.

Sure.

Aborted Babies are the most oppressed minority.

Killed before they could even start oppressing anyone/

?

Aborted before they could vote Democrat.

Arguably, you could go even further and say it is contracepted babies that do them one better.

Congratulations, Progressives! You have made contraception immoral! ;-J

Progressivism

The only ideology where it will be replaced with a completely different one.