But if they can kill a kid, I should be able to leave it without giving them money all the time.

> Pro-Life is suddenly a feminist position.

I'm all for parity, but I actually don't think "my body, my choice" carries once someone has gotten pregnant. Guys need affirmative rights in the situation as well as negative. Getting the right to opt out would be a good start, though.

Well I think that is a tricky one.

Obviously, rape and the like need to be taken into account as well, of course.

(and yes, I posess a uterus and the ability to get pregnant)

I don't think you should be able to force a woman to go through the pains of pregnancy if we want to allow the choice.

Once this subject and my position on it come up, that usually becomes relevant in someone's mind.

I would just say

I actually think there are some situations in which the fact that the woman had procreative sex was when she consented.

Note, "some".

A topic of this nature can't block out half of society.

Because if you do so, you create radical abortion clinic bombers.

Because they think abortion is murder.

Now, similar to the guy, I think she should have the option to walk away, but the thorny issues have to do with the fact that there are actually three people involved in the situation, and they all have different interests depending on the specifics.

Do you want to know the ultimate progressive talking point?

And right now it's basically two that are being discussed, and generally in an "all or nothing" kind of way.

Sure.

Aborted Babies are the most oppressed minority.

Killed before they could even start oppressing anyone/

?

Aborted before they could vote Democrat.

Arguably, you could go even further and say it is contracepted babies that do them one better.

Congratulations, Progressives! You have made contraception immoral! ;-J

Progressivism

The only ideology where it will be replaced with a completely different one.

The slippery slope, personified.

Because the end point of Progressivism is when it is converted to far right national socialist Islam.

Because they lack the argument needed to deal with a true fundamentalist religion.

Political horseshoe double reacharound.

Well it's more to do with how Progressivism is structured.

It isn't really a set of beliefs but deconstruction of beliefs.

But what happens when the belief is held by a culture that is infamous for oppressing those who won't submit and pay tribute to it like it's the middle ages?

That oppresive culture usually murders the deconstructionists.

progressivism is really just about hating white people and "whiteness" and everything that stems from that. thus. every thing must be deconstructed in countries founded by europeans

Which is an end point of progressives, but that's not really an ideological endpoint as the term is usually used.

Well I meant that as how Progressivism dies.

We will see that in the UK in the coming decades.

Oh, that reminds me. I made a bumper sticker I think people here would like, but I don't know if it's okay to post a link to it.

Just madlad it.

Blame Count Dankula if something goes wrong.