Message from @Jerm70
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Not all cults are religions.
There are plenty of neopagan woo variants, but they aren't core (yet).
They are core. Its just a matter of admitting it.
You don't have to be a relgion to have fundamentalism, though, so it's a moot point either way.
But yeah, all the current talking points about abortion is abhorrent.
It is slowly turning me pro-life.
"Clumps of cells"
"Aren't you clumps of cells?",
You'd hate some of the more rational arguments, then.
"That's different."
There is a simple argument for abortion.
It doesn't matter what we do.
Abortions would only go up.
No, I mean actually logically consistent arguments.
There are some. But they don't go the "clumps of cells, but somehow different from me being a clump of cells".
route.
I don't mind logical arguments.
The problem is that the left is retarded with their points.
Frequently, yeah.
When they can actually present them in a smart way.
LOl
Sorry, just picturing that.
Not laughing at you.
But that is how it is like isn't it?
Just constant Donald Trump quality arguments.
And this isn't a knock on his intelligence.
Just how he goes about explaining his points.
"Lottas Babies, lottas corpses. You should see the abortion clinics. It is like stepping into a German Nursery for Jews. Really bad stuff."
The Left's arguments tend to boil to...
"But this is an inconvenient situation therefore I should be allowed to do X because I am special."
Now my personal belief in abortion is this.
I will let women decide if it should be legal or not.
But if they can kill a kid, I should be able to leave it without giving them money all the time.
> Pro-Life is suddenly a feminist position.
I'm all for parity, but I actually don't think "my body, my choice" carries once someone has gotten pregnant. Guys need affirmative rights in the situation as well as negative. Getting the right to opt out would be a good start, though.
Well I think that is a tricky one.
Obviously, rape and the like need to be taken into account as well, of course.
(and yes, I posess a uterus and the ability to get pregnant)
I don't think you should be able to force a woman to go through the pains of pregnancy if we want to allow the choice.
Once this subject and my position on it come up, that usually becomes relevant in someone's mind.