From what I understand, economic sabotage and sanctions are considered a continuation of war by other means. USA and Russia, just like many other state actors, have, do, and will likely continue to pull shady underhanded shit to disrupt their opponents and gain advantage.

From what I understand, Korea was a continuation of WW2. Viet-Nam seemed wholly inappropriate and unnecessary. USA's lack of appropriate assistance with Falklands is a stain on their reputation. Gulf War 1 was entirely justifiable. Afghanistan and Gulf War 2 were unjustified and utterly retarded decisions that have cost billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of deaths

It's also an area I have very little interest in

Your feelings don't reflect the reality of how the US works buddy, you can be all for whatever it is you believe in but how the US operates is far from how you want them to operate and that is the evidence we need to take into account

not your stupid feelings about it

Evidence or your "Truth"

why does this debate always steer back toward the US?

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Yet how it operates change with time as the people in charge does, and other actors also behave in similarly poor ways

@Crafty Becauses leftists have an obsession with the US.

Which is why I steer towards domestic issues for which my own government have control over, which by extension gives some degree of influence to people like myself

Because America didn't drink their coolaid @Crafty

Besides Faultfiction argues from bad faith.

Probably becauses he's a lefty pol neet.

Or acts like one.

Britain has basically supported the US in majority of wars and sanctions

it wasn't even a u turn

Yes, it has, and I - like many- supported GW1, but not Afghanistan or GW2

the guidance and limitations have been steadily getting stronger

wasn't GW1 a success>

What was your reason for supporting the gulf war

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Iraq had invaded an ally's sovereign territory with whom we had friendly relations and an economic interest

John Lennon was a bad person and "Imagine" is a shit song with a deluded message.

So you approve of the Iraq Iran war when Saddam was supported by the US?

that's a big leap

Why is it

what about Panama

is that also a big leap

Nicaragua

because supporting one war doesn't automatically mean you support them all

Maybe you should read up on the Geo-politics of a local before assuming intent of a nation.

Do you believe that one has to have valid reasons for going to war? And if so could you tell me the reasons for Panama and Nicargagua and the many others

Orion ill just make it easier and not respond to you given how fucking retarded you sound like

The Panama Canal was a vital trade route.

When Saddam used chemical warfare against the kurds was it okay because the US supported him

Did the US have knowledge of such event occur before the Gulf Wars and the Iraq war?

Also drop your Superiority Complex that makes you look like an asshole in a debate.

How much do you know of saddam and US support Orion? How far back do their relationship go?

Waiting for Faultfiction to come back from his Google search @Eccles

Sorry, experimenting cooking

AFAIK, the Iran-Iraq war was a regional war bootstrapped by US-Russia to be a proxy conflict

I don't have much of an opinion on it beyond that