No Eccles you don't. You just double down on your stupidity like how yesterday when we were talking about Cuba and US foreign policy and it's sanctions through UN and it's institutions.
When I asked you guys yesterday if the US can do whatever it wants, are other countries allowed to take the same action, you response was that the US is not a moral state, and the other moron responded with well the US is a hegemon so it validates their actions. So you don't learn jackshit from your stupid arguments you just double down on your dumb assumptions because the overwhelming evidence against your positions destroy your premise time and again.

U-turn is such a buzzword

the discussion didn't start about US foreign policy, and nobody involved intended talking about it

Yes but the simple fact that you don't understand how the US foreign policy works is proof of how little you know of geopolitics and world economy. The US uses sanctions through its foreign policy to cripple countries and bully them through economic sanctions

and if you don't even know that, it makes sense to go with morality and hegemon to defend your desperate premise

You don't know what I know about it, or what my views on it were

I've had perfectly reasonable discussions here about public vs private healthcare, taxation, welfare, even ethnonationalism

Pull your horns in, dear, you're not Einstein

From what I understand, economic sabotage and sanctions are considered a continuation of war by other means. USA and Russia, just like many other state actors, have, do, and will likely continue to pull shady underhanded shit to disrupt their opponents and gain advantage.

From what I understand, Korea was a continuation of WW2. Viet-Nam seemed wholly inappropriate and unnecessary. USA's lack of appropriate assistance with Falklands is a stain on their reputation. Gulf War 1 was entirely justifiable. Afghanistan and Gulf War 2 were unjustified and utterly retarded decisions that have cost billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of deaths

It's also an area I have very little interest in

Your feelings don't reflect the reality of how the US works buddy, you can be all for whatever it is you believe in but how the US operates is far from how you want them to operate and that is the evidence we need to take into account

not your stupid feelings about it

Evidence or your "Truth"

why does this debate always steer back toward the US?

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Yet how it operates change with time as the people in charge does, and other actors also behave in similarly poor ways

@Crafty Becauses leftists have an obsession with the US.

Which is why I steer towards domestic issues for which my own government have control over, which by extension gives some degree of influence to people like myself

Because America didn't drink their coolaid @Crafty

Besides Faultfiction argues from bad faith.

Probably becauses he's a lefty pol neet.

Or acts like one.

Britain has basically supported the US in majority of wars and sanctions

it wasn't even a u turn

Yes, it has, and I - like many- supported GW1, but not Afghanistan or GW2

the guidance and limitations have been steadily getting stronger

wasn't GW1 a success>

What was your reason for supporting the gulf war

1

Iraq had invaded an ally's sovereign territory with whom we had friendly relations and an economic interest

John Lennon was a bad person and "Imagine" is a shit song with a deluded message.

So you approve of the Iraq Iran war when Saddam was supported by the US?

that's a big leap

Why is it

what about Panama

is that also a big leap

Nicaragua

because supporting one war doesn't automatically mean you support them all

Maybe you should read up on the Geo-politics of a local before assuming intent of a nation.

Do you believe that one has to have valid reasons for going to war? And if so could you tell me the reasons for Panama and Nicargagua and the many others

Orion ill just make it easier and not respond to you given how fucking retarded you sound like

The Panama Canal was a vital trade route.