Message from @Eccles

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2020-03-24 12:34:42 UTC  

Yes but the simple fact that you don't understand how the US foreign policy works is proof of how little you know of geopolitics and world economy. The US uses sanctions through its foreign policy to cripple countries and bully them through economic sanctions

2020-03-24 12:35:04 UTC  

and if you don't even know that, it makes sense to go with morality and hegemon to defend your desperate premise

2020-03-24 12:39:45 UTC  

You don't know what I know about it, or what my views on it were

2020-03-24 12:40:06 UTC  

I've had perfectly reasonable discussions here about public vs private healthcare, taxation, welfare, even ethnonationalism

2020-03-24 12:40:18 UTC  

Pull your horns in, dear, you're not Einstein

2020-03-24 12:44:03 UTC  

From what I understand, economic sabotage and sanctions are considered a continuation of war by other means. USA and Russia, just like many other state actors, have, do, and will likely continue to pull shady underhanded shit to disrupt their opponents and gain advantage.

From what I understand, Korea was a continuation of WW2. Viet-Nam seemed wholly inappropriate and unnecessary. USA's lack of appropriate assistance with Falklands is a stain on their reputation. Gulf War 1 was entirely justifiable. Afghanistan and Gulf War 2 were unjustified and utterly retarded decisions that have cost billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of deaths

2020-03-24 12:44:40 UTC  

It's also an area I have very little interest in

2020-03-24 12:44:49 UTC  

Your feelings don't reflect the reality of how the US works buddy, you can be all for whatever it is you believe in but how the US operates is far from how you want them to operate and that is the evidence we need to take into account

2020-03-24 12:44:53 UTC  

not your stupid feelings about it

2020-03-24 12:46:47 UTC  

Evidence or your "Truth"

2020-03-24 12:46:50 UTC  

why does this debate always steer back toward the US?

2020-03-24 12:47:05 UTC  

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Yet how it operates change with time as the people in charge does, and other actors also behave in similarly poor ways

2020-03-24 12:47:24 UTC  

@Crafty Becauses leftists have an obsession with the US.

2020-03-24 12:47:41 UTC  

Which is why I steer towards domestic issues for which my own government have control over, which by extension gives some degree of influence to people like myself

2020-03-24 12:47:44 UTC  

Because America didn't drink their coolaid @Crafty

2020-03-24 12:49:08 UTC  

Besides Faultfiction argues from bad faith.

2020-03-24 12:49:34 UTC  

Probably becauses he's a lefty pol neet.

2020-03-24 12:49:48 UTC  

Or acts like one.

2020-03-24 12:50:00 UTC  

Britain has basically supported the US in majority of wars and sanctions

2020-03-24 12:50:12 UTC  

it wasn't even a u turn

2020-03-24 12:50:22 UTC  

Yes, it has, and I - like many- supported GW1, but not Afghanistan or GW2

2020-03-24 12:50:23 UTC  

the guidance and limitations have been steadily getting stronger

2020-03-24 12:50:37 UTC  

wasn't GW1 a success>

2020-03-24 12:50:40 UTC  

What was your reason for supporting the gulf war

2020-03-24 12:50:50 UTC  

1

2020-03-24 12:51:12 UTC  

Iraq had invaded an ally's sovereign territory with whom we had friendly relations and an economic interest

2020-03-24 12:54:15 UTC  

John Lennon was a bad person and "Imagine" is a shit song with a deluded message.

2020-03-24 12:54:36 UTC  

So you approve of the Iraq Iran war when Saddam was supported by the US?

2020-03-24 12:55:16 UTC  

that's a big leap

2020-03-24 12:55:35 UTC  

Why is it

2020-03-24 12:55:39 UTC  

what about Panama

2020-03-24 12:55:41 UTC  

is that also a big leap

2020-03-24 12:55:48 UTC  

Nicaragua

2020-03-24 12:56:04 UTC  

because supporting one war doesn't automatically mean you support them all

2020-03-24 12:56:31 UTC  

Maybe you should read up on the Geo-politics of a local before assuming intent of a nation.

2020-03-24 12:56:36 UTC  

Do you believe that one has to have valid reasons for going to war? And if so could you tell me the reasons for Panama and Nicargagua and the many others

2020-03-24 12:57:01 UTC  

Orion ill just make it easier and not respond to you given how fucking retarded you sound like

2020-03-24 12:57:06 UTC  

The Panama Canal was a vital trade route.

2020-03-24 12:57:30 UTC  

When Saddam used chemical warfare against the kurds was it okay because the US supported him

2020-03-24 12:59:27 UTC  

Did the US have knowledge of such event occur before the Gulf Wars and the Iraq war?

2020-03-24 13:00:51 UTC  

Also drop your Superiority Complex that makes you look like an asshole in a debate.