You have to teach the people how to make welfare this way they dont need to beg for it

So you don't want to talk about it @DrWittMDPhD ?

welfare is not necessarily a bad thing... but you have to make sure that it is a "last resort" for people, not a lifestyle

https://twitter.com/qikipedia/status/1054809685667299328?s=20

And don't just harbor drug addicts lol

Most homeless are incapable of leaving the mindset that makes them homeless

"can I use my food stamps for cigarettes"

Me saying that my AnCap utopia only has spears as welfare is a joke. I fully accept that some people get fucked sometimes and need help. My real argument is that welfare should be minimized as much as possible so it ends up helping people become self sufficient again

okay do you wanna talk about how you would like to see it planned out, and if I can find any hole, Vice Versa?

That sounds boring

I don't have a number for you on how much $ we need to spend, I'm just saying that in principle it should be the lowest possible number.

Stop being boring, Dante

Thats fine Im not perpared either we can just talk about the idea.

the problem with welfare is that it has to be unique to each person. We can't go with the lowest common denominator

you should not have more money as a single parent on welfare than when you are married with only one income.

Well do you disagree with the principle that welfare should be as small as possible without leaving people to get blasted?

then how do you accurately calculate welfare for each person?

*starts to lurk and learn*

That seems like a pretty universal principle

Can I talk about how much I hate homeless people?

Pls

yeah I agree, but thats a walk back from want you said.

welfare shouldn't give someone enough money to live without getting a job

What I originally said was give people spears to steal food in AnCapistan

it should

That was a joke

then what's the motivation to get a job?

luxury

welfare -> you can live | job -> you can buy stuff you want

this is true

I vote for how things should be, not what is most convenient for me

how do we prevent people from becoming dependent on it then?

Well, the "living" part has to be just "Sleep under roof, have drinks and food"

So I would vote for anti abortion

problem starts when you can buy non-essential stuff while on welfare

It has to be uncomfortable to the extreme, but not in any way that would be harmful to their health

But in practice would want to utilize abortion things

Water and nutrient bricks

It is a major convenience to just terminate a child, but it isn't right

what about a Darwinian approach to welfare (if that makes any sense). Let people spend their welfare money on whatever; those who spend it wisely (on food, putting some in savings, and move towards getting out of poverty) will eventually no longer need it

Then you run into people complaining about how they can't live off of $20,000 of crack money cause they don't have any left over for ramen