Message from @DrWittMDPhD

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2018-10-23 20:10:29 UTC  

omg thats not how it is!

2018-10-23 20:10:37 UTC  

But in the absence of a government net, alternate sources of charity can still exist

2018-10-23 20:10:38 UTC  

That implies that people need welfare to exist

2018-10-23 20:10:47 UTC  

It's a temporary crutch

2018-10-23 20:10:48 UTC  

We do need it

2018-10-23 20:11:04 UTC  

I mean if you wanna go down a channel and talk about it we can

2018-10-23 20:11:08 UTC  

Drink from the cactusses!

2018-10-23 20:11:12 UTC  

when welfare becomes the difference between making rent or not, that's a problem

2018-10-23 20:11:23 UTC  

I don't. That's proof positive that humans don't need welfare to survive. The goal should be to get people off welfare to be self sufficient

2018-10-23 20:11:34 UTC  

exactly

2018-10-23 20:11:49 UTC  

You have to teach the people how to make welfare this way they dont need to beg for it

2018-10-23 20:11:51 UTC  

So you don't want to talk about it @DrWittMDPhD ?

2018-10-23 20:11:59 UTC  

welfare is not necessarily a bad thing... but you have to make sure that it is a "last resort" for people, not a lifestyle

2018-10-23 20:12:31 UTC  

And don't just harbor drug addicts lol

2018-10-23 20:13:02 UTC  

Most homeless are incapable of leaving the mindset that makes them homeless

2018-10-23 20:13:02 UTC  

"can I use my food stamps for cigarettes"

2018-10-23 20:13:03 UTC  

Me saying that my AnCap utopia only has spears as welfare is a joke. I fully accept that some people get fucked sometimes and need help. My real argument is that welfare should be minimized as much as possible so it ends up helping people become self sufficient again

2018-10-23 20:13:41 UTC  

okay do you wanna talk about how you would like to see it planned out, and if I can find any hole, Vice Versa?

2018-10-23 20:13:57 UTC  

That sounds boring

2018-10-23 20:13:58 UTC  

I don't have a number for you on how much $ we need to spend, I'm just saying that in principle it should be the lowest possible number.

2018-10-23 20:14:17 UTC  

Stop being boring, Dante

2018-10-23 20:14:20 UTC  

Thats fine Im not perpared either we can just talk about the idea.

2018-10-23 20:14:28 UTC  

the problem with welfare is that it has to be unique to each person. We can't go with the lowest common denominator

2018-10-23 20:14:40 UTC  

you should not have more money as a single parent on welfare than when you are married with only one income.

2018-10-23 20:14:45 UTC  

Well do you disagree with the principle that welfare should be as small as possible without leaving people to get blasted?

2018-10-23 20:14:47 UTC  

then how do you accurately calculate welfare for each person?

2018-10-23 20:14:48 UTC  

*starts to lurk and learn*

2018-10-23 20:14:50 UTC  

That seems like a pretty universal principle

2018-10-23 20:14:57 UTC  

Can I talk about how much I hate homeless people?

2018-10-23 20:15:01 UTC  

Pls

2018-10-23 20:15:10 UTC  

yeah I agree, but thats a walk back from want you said.

2018-10-23 20:15:18 UTC  

welfare shouldn't give someone enough money to live without getting a job

2018-10-23 20:15:24 UTC  

What I originally said was give people spears to steal food in AnCapistan

2018-10-23 20:15:26 UTC  

it should

2018-10-23 20:15:26 UTC  

That was a joke

2018-10-23 20:15:35 UTC  

then what's the motivation to get a job?

2018-10-23 20:15:45 UTC  

luxury

2018-10-23 20:16:15 UTC  

welfare -> you can live | job -> you can buy stuff you want

2018-10-23 20:16:24 UTC  

this is true

2018-10-23 20:16:35 UTC  

I vote for how things should be, not what is most convenient for me