Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-10-24 18:34:31 UTC  

Where is the balance between religion and ideology

2018-10-24 18:34:37 UTC  

atheism is rejecting god,

Not a belief in an ideal

2018-10-24 18:34:40 UTC  

"We’ve deleted two tweets from earlier today saying that an explosive device had been found at Hillary and Bill Clinton’s home. The source who provided the information was incorrect. In fact, the device was intercepted at a nearby facility." - AP

2018-10-24 18:34:57 UTC  

Ah!

2018-10-24 18:34:58 UTC  

@JohnOakman there really isn't a huge distinction when it comes down to it.

2018-10-24 18:35:04 UTC  

Yes, that's what I pointed out reading the report.

2018-10-24 18:35:12 UTC  

It details the screening facilities.

2018-10-24 18:35:18 UTC  

Confucianism was still a religion despite being heavily focused on politics and the state

2018-10-24 18:36:06 UTC  

"Ideology: a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy."

2018-10-24 18:36:07 UTC  

@Dvir You have Muslims, shariah law, christianity, inquisition, judaism, sionism, etc..

2018-10-24 18:36:13 UTC  

liberalism was still a religion despite being heavily focused on politics and the state and being wrong all the time

2018-10-24 18:36:26 UTC  

And atheist have COMMUNISM <a:HammerSickle:470338844345237514> <a:HammerSickle:470338844345237514> <:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-24 18:36:42 UTC  

I'm jking

2018-10-24 18:36:44 UTC  

as an atheist i reject communism

2018-10-24 18:36:45 UTC  

Or other radical ideologies that co-opt the place of religion

2018-10-24 18:36:45 UTC  

This is an interesting topic.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/504724952000495617/Screen_Shot_2018-10-24_at_8.36.25_PM.png

2018-10-24 18:37:24 UTC  

As a Christian, I reject the sins committed by Feudal Christian states

2018-10-24 18:37:24 UTC  

man thats gay

2018-10-24 18:37:28 UTC  

We can both be apologists

2018-10-24 18:37:33 UTC  

Interesting. These beliefs go back far.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/504725152315998208/Screen_Shot_2018-10-24_at_8.37.16_PM.png

2018-10-24 18:37:50 UTC  

Communism wasn't acted out as a command of atheism

Feudal christian states acted out as a command of god

2018-10-24 18:38:03 UTC  

I'm not an apologist, i'm stating you're making false connections

2018-10-24 18:38:13 UTC  

In the Atheist Communist society the state surplanted the role of God.

2018-10-24 18:38:17 UTC  

No, but communism is an ideology that is not religious.

2018-10-24 18:38:21 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird But atheism sucks a bit cause now Europe is super super gay

2018-10-24 18:38:29 UTC  

yes, the state became the new god

Not a "Lack of god"

2018-10-24 18:38:33 UTC  

you said it yourself bub

2018-10-24 18:38:46 UTC  

Yes. Either way, the categorization is off.

2018-10-24 18:38:56 UTC  

It is irrational vs. rational.

2018-10-24 18:39:04 UTC  

They didn't take god away like true atheists, they replaced god with the state

2018-10-24 18:39:12 UTC  

And atheism is a religion

2018-10-24 18:39:15 UTC  

hah

2018-10-24 18:39:22 UTC  

obvious troll is obvious 😉

2018-10-24 18:39:25 UTC  

I do not care if somebody starves me because they don't know how economics works or if someone drowns me to see if I'm a witch.

2018-10-24 18:39:39 UTC  

I care about rational vs. irrational.

2018-10-24 18:39:58 UTC  

Atheism is a definite declaration that there is no God or Divine being.

2018-10-24 18:40:03 UTC  

also definitions are wonky here
is religion: big beard dude in the sky trowing lightning
or
idealised version of a goal to continuesly strive for to create heaven on earth like washing your penis

2018-10-24 18:40:12 UTC  

Reality is like a rubber band:

You can stretch it, but the further you pull, the harder it snaps back.

That applies to any action taken on non-factual beliefs.

2018-10-24 18:40:19 UTC  

the first one is what athiests tend to have issues with

2018-10-24 18:40:20 UTC  

Religion is "This is your holy book, it controls your life"