Message from @Xaverius

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2020-03-15 13:38:35 UTC  

because the quickest speedrun is just teleport, select NPC, kill, using commands

2020-03-15 13:53:46 UTC  

There's a difference between straight up using coommands and using the fine arts of bug that Todd himself bestowed upon us.

2020-03-15 14:01:42 UTC  

commands are a bug

2020-03-15 14:03:39 UTC  

commands are not a bug

2020-03-15 14:04:07 UTC  

yes they are

2020-03-15 14:04:16 UTC  

commands are the ultimate bug

2020-03-15 14:04:37 UTC  

commands are basically how you make a broken game playable

2020-03-15 14:04:47 UTC  

pretty sure that's any% so bugs and glitches are allowed

2020-03-15 14:04:55 UTC  

you can't be assed to do it yourself, so you just give the player the ability to fix it on the fly.

2020-03-15 14:07:16 UTC  

commands are a dev feature

2020-03-15 14:07:36 UTC  

most game just dont let you us them

2020-03-15 14:09:15 UTC  

yeah

2020-03-15 14:09:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669679112683651082/688750667593941031/ETJ8quKWkAImUMw.png

2020-03-15 14:09:20 UTC  

it's not a bug

2020-03-15 14:09:31 UTC  

Ok, I rephrase:

user-accessible commands are a bug

2020-03-15 14:09:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669679112683651082/688750746069499963/unknown.png

2020-03-15 14:09:45 UTC  

@Goddess Tyche if it is done on purpose it isnt a bug

2020-03-15 14:10:09 UTC  

for example paradox games let you access the command console with the press of a button on purpose

2020-03-15 14:10:15 UTC  

tho some features are restricted to developers

2020-03-15 14:10:35 UTC  

If it's done on purpose it's admitting you can't make a game by yourself and need the player to fix it on the fly, which makes it a bug, because a game without bugs is a game you don't need to modify to play.

2020-03-15 14:10:42 UTC  

3:04 PM] ボギニャジヴァ [∞IQ]: commands are basically how you make a broken game playable

In that case they aren't a bug, they're a tool to fix the bug. They're anti-bugs.

2020-03-15 14:10:58 UTC  

or because it makes setting up some things easier

2020-03-15 14:11:07 UTC  

you cant literally reprogram a game with a command console

2020-03-15 14:11:55 UTC  

but you can fucking setstage and bypass the 50% of quests that are broken

2020-03-15 14:12:37 UTC  

it depends on if you are talking about accessible command consoles in general or just bethesda games

2020-03-15 14:13:42 UTC  

The thing is, I wouldn't even know commands existed if I didn't need to use them to clear broken quests.

2020-03-15 14:14:00 UTC  

Maybe make the game playable?

tweakergui instant_survey, tweakergui enable.ai , tweakergui instant_move , tweakergui instant_anomaly_research , tweakergui instant_colony , tweakergui pop_happiness <:smugon:512048583806025739>

IRONMAN <:powerful:595334910764515338>

2020-03-15 14:15:44 UTC  
2020-03-15 14:18:30 UTC  

yeah and paradox have an ironman mode

2020-03-15 14:18:45 UTC  

which doesnt allow you to use console commands

but does allow you to use tweakergui before you start an ironman game and makes it so you can still use those cheats <:smugon:512048583806025739>

2020-03-15 14:19:28 UTC  

and it's the only way to earn achievments or rank up in the leaderboard which no one cares about and I am sure 70% of playrs dont know but still

2020-03-15 14:19:45 UTC  

oh you're talking about stellaris

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898> yes.

2020-03-15 14:20:06 UTC  

dunno if thats the cas ein other paradox games

2020-03-15 14:23:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669679112683651082/688754220974866498/e3pt9bma2pm41.png

2020-03-15 14:31:05 UTC  

@Goddess Tyche Look, Skyrim would've been playable if they didn't cut the development at 70 % so they can release before christmas and at the meme date of 11/11/11 <:smugon:512048583806025739>

2020-03-15 14:33:27 UTC  

Also let us remember they axed DLCs probably because of TESO (though that was supposed to be another team headed by Zenimax itself) or FO 76, both of which were great successes <:Veemote:501103628883591188>