Message from @Comando
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is a police state that were in now <:comfort:592107824826417204>
i dont like it. dystopian 1984 george orwell novel, technocratic nightmare bruh <:comfort:592107824826417204>
With nipple-rings and latex bdsm for shuuuuure
I'm supposed to be scared but I can't keep myself from falling off the couch, you made my day
Thank you so much
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Oh huh
@Sq crcl The issue being that there is no reasonable solution to this crisis imo. There is a mountain of cost and someone must pay it. Its just a question of how.
- First hard solution is no market involvement by any Government. Ordinary people go out of business, declare Bankruptcy and mass asset forfeiture occurs which will lead to mass disenfranchisement with masses from establishment politics. Those people will rightly point at the system and say, the 1 thing we have in common is that **They** took our stuff... *Communism and Fascism rear their heads*
- The next solution is slow, but progressive inflation, led by the Government and Central Banks, which is designes to slowly reduce the value of debt and savings (if you double the price level then both debt and savings, are halved in value). This is what is currently being done. Slowly dishonour the debt, but not so fast as to ruin those holding certain assets.
Now we enter the cooky solutions
- Debt Jubilee. Wipe all existing debts, then change the system. Main problem with this is by wiping all debts, you effectively destroy the entire value of all banks. They are worth only whatever they have inside of them, most of which is granted to them by others. This option de facto destroys most banks.
- Equity Jubilee. Rather than *Just* wiping all debts, any firm which has accrued debts, can opt into a program to bankrupt themselves. They are compelled to issue shares in order to compensate those they owe debts to, these shares are then given to their creditors, and as a compensation method to non-endebted citizen households for what you are about to do to the currency. QE is employed to pay back Capital to the banks to pay off the debts of households up to an amount, this numble could and probably should be experimented with, and should cover non-business debt, such as credit cards. Citizens who did not endebt themselves recieve equities from the bailed companies, to the approximate amount of those bailed out meaning that net, the standing of citizens has not changed relative to one another. The main costs to this solutions would be to existing share holders of companies would have their proportinal amount of shares reduced, but this would represent the would be the net cost of investing in semi-failed businesses. Banks would also take a hit, along with financial firms. The QE if, done only by 1 country would damage the countries exchange rate to others, relative to their own inflationary measures.
- Helicopter Jubilee. Same thing as a the Equity Jubilee but with pure cash. Likely to inflate the economy silly though. (see friedmans helicopter money) The costs paid here will more heavily rake the exchange rate along with anyone holding pure cash savings.
The main problem with all of these is that it becomes a question of who do you hurt? Which interest group gets the smack around the face and to what degree? There isn't a free option and no matter what is done it will cost someone, whether it be the cost of skills accumilation(the bedrock of a fucking civilization), massive asset seizures to uphold the value of the current system, or some form of reset where those who are invested, are forced to lose a portion of their investment due to the failure of the system. There isn't really a way to be impartial and everyone will have their own bias on the matter, as I certainly do, and will have come through here. Ultimately the decision becomes a political one, and if no decision is made, will become one.
These are the costs, and we must pick one of them. Currently we've picked stagnation, during a time when the rest of the world is developing at a record rate. This will end badly imo, but hey, at least this cycle we aren't trying to do what we did in the 30's and just leave the system for dead.
I'm not expecting a propt reply to this 😛
I'm biting my tongue BIGLY because I haven't processed the first 14 pages of your nice breakdown...
I will reply because it's interesting
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Gov't and Fed double stuffing us.
@Ji Too late to action this knowledge now, but... just... It turns out the correct market position prior to the crisis was to, remain liquid so that when the panic selling happened, you buy up assets on the cheap. Why? Because what the market currently wants is cash not assets. Why? So that they can pay off their debts as well as overheads as they go into a siege mentality, to wait out the crisis. This is why assets were fire saled. This is also why the QE was required. Swap dud assets for liquidity to repay loans.
The correct position now? Wait for either a change to the system, additional shocks, or wait for the market to bottom out. Its tricky though. Personally I would look into investing in something which cannot be subject to Government action, such as land or hard assets. Land is difficult as there will be an ovehead cost, hard assets are easier to cease, and if in large amounts difficult to store, and while stocks are cheat right now, new shares could be issued to stave off bankruptcy. Correct position? Who the fuck knows...
Well that makes me less nervous to close on a house next week
Make sure you have enough money left over for immediate repayments. There is also the possibility that the housing market will go under as well sooooooo... There's a lot of guesswork at the moment.
Yep, everything seems fucked six ways from Sunday and its nearly impossible to make a right move.
I was hoping to find something productive to do with the cash I have on hand but the opportunities are not presenting themselves the way you would expect by the fed and government propping it all up.
It is hard to say what the curve is doing in the US because we only started large-scale testing. When you go from thousands to hundreds of thousands of tests the curve is going to spike.
Because the Canada daily cases look a lot like Italy daily cases between February and March.
I think it is because many states are still not taking this seriously. I have seen many restaurants that are still open.
as in, people can dine-in?
yes
oof
yeah, can't do that here
takeout, delivery only
Yeah we started shutting down restaurants at like 1 case.