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They didn't come from Iran, they conquered it as well as most of India and most of Europe
Indo-Iranian is a geographical and linguistic name not a racial one
They did come from Iran, the flow of people from Iran was to Europe, rather than from Europe, and we can prove it via archaeology and genetics. The story is essentially backwards
The Ayrans didn't come from Iran lmao
Hitler also really liked the muslims for their violence lol, there's a few quotes on the issue that are kind of funny
The Aryans are more of a concept than a real thing, but the first Europeans that called themselves Aryan did come from Iran
This is where indo-europeans/Ayrans come from
The first people in the Pontic–Caspian steppe were Iranian
People did not originate essentially in Europe by magic, they immigrated from Africa, to the middle east, and then to Europe, and then spread from these back places to other places
Mate, those two migratory events happened ages apart. Loads of time for genetic shifts.
> The first people in the Pontic–Caspian steppe were Iranian
Ancient iranian isn't a modern iranian, plus we are entering semantic territory.
Well yeah it's semantics, the original people in to Europe came from, the middle east, largely from Iran
There were multiple waves, but the first people in Europe were essentially, from Iran
Doesn't matter the geography, it's the genetics
Ayrans didn't come from Iran, they conquered, settled and ruled the area. The langauges spoken in ancient iran before the invasion(s) around 3000bc were not indo-european
Modern humans actually first appeared in the Balkans after more primitive hominids had already left Africa
@Goddess Tyche We had a discussion earlier today about the last primitive tribe (who actively chases out outsiders) on North Sentinel island in Bay of Bengal . Apparently that whole area, including SE asia, was populated by a very early migration wave from Africa.
You mean to say that they're not homo sapiens sapiens
They are, but they're super primitive, they haven't even discovered fire
lmao, idiots
literally just rub sticks fast
by now someone should have done it by accident when fucking a woman real hard
They are woke on borders tho. Whoever wants to enter gets the spear
What is Sentinalese are actually hiding their superior technology underground and are giving appearance, that they are primitive, so they can take over the world after corona chan kills 50% of the population?
```They recognise the value of metal, having scavenged it to create tools and weapons and accepted aluminum cookware left by the National Geographic Society in 1974.```
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The first modern humans developed in Africa, not in the Balkans
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/world-history/world-history-beginnings/origin-humans-early-societies/a/where-did-humans-come-from
According to some people, there was a primate in the Balkans that could have lead to the various species that lead to humans, however it just as easily could have been an offshoot of later what turned in to humans, rather than be what humans evolved from. And that was 7 million years ago, and it looked like a monkey, being still covered in fur at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graecopithecus
There's no genetic proof and it's entirely possible it's an offshoot that evolved similiar teeth structures given it just so happened to eat the same food
The earliest humans were around about 200,000 years ago, and this was around like 7 million. It's not really possible this was the first human, at best it would be an extremely distant ancestor, even cro magnon man is closer
The more interesting group of people are the Ainu, who are closely related to early Europeans and Cro Magnon man, but have small groups in Asia, including Japan. Most of them bread out, but just by looking at them, you can tell they don't look very Japanese, and grow large beards. It's kind of super interesting
A craniometric study by Brace et al. (2001) shows a closer morphological relation of the Ainu and Jōmon people to prehistoric and modern Europeans rather than to other contemporary East Asians. The study concludes that the Jōmon and Ainu people are descendants of a population (dubbed "Eurasians" by Brace et al.) that moved into northern Eurasia (and also the Americas) in the Late Pleistocene, which significantly predates the expansion of the modern core population of East Asia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Hokkaido_Ainu.jpg
A Japanese man apparently O.O
And MtDNA indicates Africa 150-250M. Which is a lot more conclusive than fossil evidence.