Verifiably false, like saying government instituted a curfew when it did not. Which was that one particular case.

The concept of civic nationalism is extremely naive. The idea of a large group of different peoples with extremely different ethnic, religious and cultural backgrounds, somehow being able to assimilate together peacefully, is dumb. For instance, let's take France. France was eventually united, but it's important to note that the different people's of france had much in common already. Despite that, it took an entire century of bloodshed to unite it. German immigrants in the US absolutely refused to speak english or assimilate. Places like Pensilvania were absolutely dominated by German culture. Now, who in their right mind would go "Okay guys, let's do this again but with even more diversity!". We're conditioned to believe that the Founding Fathers always intended America to be a "boiling pot", even though, the very first naturalization act, and every single one up until 1965, made it blantatly obvious that, that's not what they intended at all. Most people, specifically people of non-white cultures, aren't willing to give up their cultures and traditions. Civ-nat can work on a small scale, but when it's big numbers? Fuck no.

It's like collectivism can work in the family unit or on a small hippie-farm but no more than that without becoming tyrannical eventually.

Fermi paradox: sentience equilibrium theory-

As a sentience becomes "more" evolved it's birthrates shrink, as it's birthrates shrink "less" evolved subspecies become more prevalent; breeding faster and maintaining birthrates more easily under duress. This results in the destruction of any subspecies which could possibly achieve the ability to rise above the condition that is "animal" for long enough that it can become a galactic entity.

Simply put; intelligent life never survives because genetic prevalence breaks down as a species become more intelligent. A knife can only be so sharp- based on the material- before it reaches it's maximum. If that maximum is not maintained then it will degrade and become dull- and eventually porous with rust- as time and Entropy consume its structure.

"civic" - No- "ethno" - No- "genetic"; "Nationalism" - No- "identity" - No- "existence"; is the edge. If human diversity is not maintained then humanity will eventually becomes extinct. If we allow Entropy to eat us then it eats us. If we allow ourselves to become porous then we become porous. We MUST balkanize by genetic identity- while working together to achieve the optimal goal for the species- or we will not survive at all.

We look into the universe and we see no other sentience. We see only matter; innate, as though we are the only observers.





Life consumes itself. ENTROPY IS GOD.

Entropy is heat dissipating into void; Entropy is the utilization of energy into the creation of nothingness; Entropy is the abstraction of culture and zeitgeist as decadence kills society; Entropy is the bleeding of genetic identity; Entropy is the God we must abide and serve but also resist if we wish to exist.

The only way life will ever overcome rarity and the scarcity of intelligence is if a SPECIES decides that it will remain diverse but interlocked; locked by it's own genetic distinctions into a pattern that is optimal for survival. We must be the fractal; we must have boundaries and eccentricities and structure-- or we will not exist.

Genetic identity and collectivism are paramount to the survival of the human species; as is human diversity. Speciated Homogeneity is death through surrender to Entropy.


We ARE Entropy. Our task is to degrade matter into energy and energy into nothingness; all human activity serves this purpose. If we are restrained to this world then we are finite and linked to it intrinsically; thus we share it's fate inevitably. We either hone ourselves to an extreme crystalline edge and begin degrading matter in the universe around us; or we end. We either rise above the condition of the animal; or we perish as a used tool- degraded into energy and then dispersed into nothing.

Racial nationalism is the fight for the survival of the human species against natural Entropic processes that decay boundaries and disperse order... This is simply a fact of life.

that got a bit too big brain for me ngl

@Kenny🐍Jones

@Blaster Master Isn't that the point?

I guess you're right

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8139529/Flights-Italy-Iran-China-landing-Britain-despite-UK-coronavirus-lockdown.html great job UK for being fucking retards

at this point all international travel should be on lockdown to a few expectations which are required

Hey, what happened to BKP? I was scrolling through the last week or so of messages and didn't see him. Did he drop out during the month or so I was away? Watching his unending rants about lesbians was my favorite part of this debate channel.

The debate channel was briefly deleted because of him. Then he kept doing this thing, got commented on by the mods and then he mysteriously disappeared.

Hmm, that's probably a good thing overall, but I'm still going to miss his proselytizing.

Aw man did I miss that glorious block of assertion on some stupid relation with entropy
gotta drop by more often

Entropy? More like ent rape

I mean

It's right there, nigger

And it's also full of junk
"As a sentience becomes "more" evolved it's birthrates shrink,"
Not a great rule when cephalopods exist.

"breeding faster and maintaining birthrates more easily under duress."
patently false, intellect extends an advantage in strife

"Simply put; intelligent life never survives because genetic prevalence breaks down as a species become more intelligent."
Historically, more intelligent animals have died off expressly due to calorie issues

"If human diversity is not maintained then humanity will eventually becomes extinct."
"We MUST balkanize by genetic identity"
lack any form of support, you're missing a paragraph.

"ENTROPY IS GOD."
Mkay then, go tell me why black holes have different sizes.

"We ARE Entropy."
This is the flimsiest reasoning I've seen all week and I take a class on orange man bad from a literal communist professor.
Turing it around, you can get we are death, we are cancer, we are shot etc. We are not these things, they merely occur alongside us.

"all human activity serves this purpose."
All human activity adheres to thermodynamics. Its intent is related to entropy, but not designed to further entropy itself, merely to repel it.

"extreme crystalline edge"
The longest lived sword is that which is battle-edged, neither excessive in sharpness nor wanting in strength.

"Racial nationalism is the fight for the survival of the human species against natural Entropic processes"
Given the above, you have failed to support this stance.

@Hexidecimark bold of you to assume he did any research before coming up with that spectacular shite nugget

> And it's also full of junk

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> "As a sentience becomes "more" evolved it's birthrates shrink,"

> Not a great rule when cephalopods exist.

??? Non argument.

> "breeding faster and maintaining birthrates more easily under duress."

> patently false, intellect extends an advantage in strife

Nonsensical statement, the one example of heightened sentience we have, humans, are a proof of the concept I outlined in my essay.

> "Simply put; intelligent life never survives because genetic prevalence breaks down as a species become more intelligent."

> Historically, more intelligent animals have died off expressly due to calorie issues

Irrelevant, the high-energy cost usually *prevents* sentience of a human level from developing, once it exists it **obviously** isn't a problem.

> "If human diversity is not maintained then humanity will eventually becomes extinct."

> "We MUST balkanize by genetic identity"

> lack any form of support, you're missing a paragraph.

<:hyperdoubt:657356297553051728> you pretend there's a problem with the structure of my writing rather than making an actual argument.

> "ENTROPY IS GOD."

> Mkay then, go tell me why black holes have different sizes.

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> "We ARE Entropy."

> This is the flimsiest reasoning I've seen all week and I take a class on orange man bad from a literal communist professor.

It's not flimsy at all, literally everything you do has an entropic effect, in fact **ALL CAUSALITY** is a biproduct of entropy.

> Turing it around, you can get we are death, we are cancer, we are shot etc. We are not these things, they merely occur alongside us.

You are those things though. Especially cancer, which is **literally** just your OWN damaged cells freaking out and overproducing.

> "all human activity serves this purpose."

> All human activity adheres to thermodynamics. Its intent is related to entropy, but not designed to further entropy itself, merely to repel it.

It's not "designed" for anything and I never implied it was. And, no, we don't repel entropy in any way. That's an utterly nonsensical statement.

> "extreme crystalline edge"

> The longest lived sword is that which is battle-edged, neither excessive in sharpness nor wanting in strength.

Yeah, blunt and incapable of creating interstellar society. But, hey, we may live a long while wallowing here on earth.

@Hexidecimark PS, learn how to use the quote feature you pleb

Also stop trying to trip the spam bot.

Also if you'd try to make real arguments that would be great @Hexidecimark

@Comando who

When did I trip a bot? <:WaitWhatArmy:590858815189024778>

Živa would love this. Shame she didn't live long enough to see it.

@Blaster Master have a civcuck inbound

Civic nationalism is flimsy and retarded.

Nationalism isn’t worshipping the state it’s doing what is best for your people, and that can be at conflict with the state. Not to mention that the state’s entire purpose is to serve *the people*. Now before you say civic nationalism is for the culture and not the state I must point out that “state nationalism” and “civic nationalism” are used interchangeably. If you want to go down that culture route we can.

But it is very obvious that racial group self segregate and that ethnicities of the same race integrate far better than to other races. Also note that nation used to mean ethnic group, not a country which is how we use the term now

Also, racial groups self segregating and form their own cultures.

@snake Who is your argument directed at

Just civic nationalism in general

Wow, yeah, you still have no backing on needing to balkanize. You must have some manner of backing or you're just making a baseless assertion. I'm just pointing that out, tossing another argument into the mix would be counterproductive.

You aren't what happens to and around you, that's silly. And we do repel entropy by restocking cellular energy reserves.

The North American continent is basically a big Balkan Peninsula at this point

And people of European descent should assert themselves to make sure they exist on the new world. At least if anyone cares about wether or not Europeans on the new world are whipped out

> Wow, yeah, you still have no backing on needing to balkanize. You must have some manner of backing or you're just making a baseless assertion.

I provided the backing. We, humans, are a system that is subject to entropy and, such, we will either grow or degrade.

> You aren't what happens to and around you, that's silly. And we do repel entropy by restocking cellular energy reserves.

No, we definitely do not. Whatever the fuck that means. The idea that entropy can be repelled, or resisted, or anything of the such is completely nonsensical. That isn't how it works at all. It can be embraced, used as a tool, and we do that as humans; in fact that seems to be what a huge part of intelligennce is.

> I'm just pointing that out, tossing another argument into the mix would be counterproductive.

Yeah okay dude, whatever you wany to tell yourself.

@Hexidecimark

@snake Did you read my OP?

Okay so you know what entropy is at least, right, descent to worthless noise.
When you eat, you are maintaining yourself, in opposition to such a descent