Message from @snake

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2020-03-22 22:54:35 UTC  

Aw man did I miss that glorious block of assertion on some stupid relation with entropy
gotta drop by more often

2020-03-22 23:08:49 UTC  

Entropy? More like ent rape

2020-03-22 23:12:10 UTC  

I mean

2020-03-22 23:12:26 UTC  

It's right there, nigger

2020-03-22 23:24:23 UTC  

And it's also full of junk
"As a sentience becomes "more" evolved it's birthrates shrink,"
Not a great rule when cephalopods exist.

"breeding faster and maintaining birthrates more easily under duress."
patently false, intellect extends an advantage in strife

"Simply put; intelligent life never survives because genetic prevalence breaks down as a species become more intelligent."
Historically, more intelligent animals have died off expressly due to calorie issues

"If human diversity is not maintained then humanity will eventually becomes extinct."
"We MUST balkanize by genetic identity"
lack any form of support, you're missing a paragraph.

"ENTROPY IS GOD."
Mkay then, go tell me why black holes have different sizes.

"We ARE Entropy."
This is the flimsiest reasoning I've seen all week and I take a class on orange man bad from a literal communist professor.
Turing it around, you can get we are death, we are cancer, we are shot etc. We are not these things, they merely occur alongside us.

"all human activity serves this purpose."
All human activity adheres to thermodynamics. Its intent is related to entropy, but not designed to further entropy itself, merely to repel it.

"extreme crystalline edge"
The longest lived sword is that which is battle-edged, neither excessive in sharpness nor wanting in strength.

"Racial nationalism is the fight for the survival of the human species against natural Entropic processes"
Given the above, you have failed to support this stance.

2020-03-22 23:29:02 UTC  

@Hexidecimark bold of you to assume he did any research before coming up with that spectacular shite nugget

2020-03-22 23:35:27 UTC  

> And it's also full of junk

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> "As a sentience becomes "more" evolved it's birthrates shrink,"

> Not a great rule when cephalopods exist.

??? Non argument.

> "breeding faster and maintaining birthrates more easily under duress."

> patently false, intellect extends an advantage in strife

Nonsensical statement, the one example of heightened sentience we have, humans, are a proof of the concept I outlined in my essay.

> "Simply put; intelligent life never survives because genetic prevalence breaks down as a species become more intelligent."

> Historically, more intelligent animals have died off expressly due to calorie issues

Irrelevant, the high-energy cost usually *prevents* sentience of a human level from developing, once it exists it **obviously** isn't a problem.

2020-03-22 23:35:44 UTC  

> "If human diversity is not maintained then humanity will eventually becomes extinct."

> "We MUST balkanize by genetic identity"

> lack any form of support, you're missing a paragraph.

<:hyperdoubt:657356297553051728> you pretend there's a problem with the structure of my writing rather than making an actual argument.

> "ENTROPY IS GOD."

> Mkay then, go tell me why black holes have different sizes.

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> "We ARE Entropy."

> This is the flimsiest reasoning I've seen all week and I take a class on orange man bad from a literal communist professor.

It's not flimsy at all, literally everything you do has an entropic effect, in fact **ALL CAUSALITY** is a biproduct of entropy.

> Turing it around, you can get we are death, we are cancer, we are shot etc. We are not these things, they merely occur alongside us.

You are those things though. Especially cancer, which is **literally** just your OWN damaged cells freaking out and overproducing.

> "all human activity serves this purpose."

> All human activity adheres to thermodynamics. Its intent is related to entropy, but not designed to further entropy itself, merely to repel it.

It's not "designed" for anything and I never implied it was. And, no, we don't repel entropy in any way. That's an utterly nonsensical statement.

> "extreme crystalline edge"

> The longest lived sword is that which is battle-edged, neither excessive in sharpness nor wanting in strength.

Yeah, blunt and incapable of creating interstellar society. But, hey, we may live a long while wallowing here on earth.

2020-03-22 23:36:33 UTC  

@Hexidecimark PS, learn how to use the quote feature you pleb

2020-03-22 23:36:50 UTC  

Also stop trying to trip the spam bot.

2020-03-22 23:37:20 UTC  

Also if you'd try to make real arguments that would be great @Hexidecimark

2020-03-22 23:37:37 UTC  
2020-03-22 23:38:17 UTC  

When did I trip a bot? <:WaitWhatArmy:590858815189024778>

2020-03-22 23:38:28 UTC  

Živa would love this. Shame she didn't live long enough to see it.

2020-03-22 23:41:17 UTC  

@Blaster Master have a civcuck inbound

2020-03-22 23:41:41 UTC  

Civic nationalism is flimsy and retarded.

2020-03-22 23:43:14 UTC  

Nationalism isn’t worshipping the state it’s doing what is best for your people, and that can be at conflict with the state. Not to mention that the state’s entire purpose is to serve *the people*. Now before you say civic nationalism is for the culture and not the state I must point out that “state nationalism” and “civic nationalism” are used interchangeably. If you want to go down that culture route we can.

2020-03-22 23:44:49 UTC  

But it is very obvious that racial group self segregate and that ethnicities of the same race integrate far better than to other races. Also note that nation used to mean ethnic group, not a country which is how we use the term now

2020-03-22 23:45:18 UTC  

Also, racial groups self segregating and form their own cultures.

2020-03-22 23:45:40 UTC  

@snake Who is your argument directed at

2020-03-22 23:45:51 UTC  

Just civic nationalism in general

2020-03-22 23:50:46 UTC  

Wow, yeah, you still have no backing on needing to balkanize. You must have some manner of backing or you're just making a baseless assertion. I'm just pointing that out, tossing another argument into the mix would be counterproductive.

You aren't what happens to and around you, that's silly. And we do repel entropy by restocking cellular energy reserves.

2020-03-22 23:51:38 UTC  

The North American continent is basically a big Balkan Peninsula at this point

2020-03-22 23:52:38 UTC  

And people of European descent should assert themselves to make sure they exist on the new world. At least if anyone cares about wether or not Europeans on the new world are whipped out

2020-03-22 23:55:41 UTC  

> Wow, yeah, you still have no backing on needing to balkanize. You must have some manner of backing or you're just making a baseless assertion.

I provided the backing. We, humans, are a system that is subject to entropy and, such, we will either grow or degrade.

> You aren't what happens to and around you, that's silly. And we do repel entropy by restocking cellular energy reserves.

No, we definitely do not. Whatever the fuck that means. The idea that entropy can be repelled, or resisted, or anything of the such is completely nonsensical. That isn't how it works at all. It can be embraced, used as a tool, and we do that as humans; in fact that seems to be what a huge part of intelligennce is.

> I'm just pointing that out, tossing another argument into the mix would be counterproductive.

Yeah okay dude, whatever you wany to tell yourself.

@Hexidecimark

2020-03-22 23:56:42 UTC  

@snake Did you read my OP?

2020-03-22 23:56:49 UTC  

Okay so you know what entropy is at least, right, descent to worthless noise.
When you eat, you are maintaining yourself, in opposition to such a descent

2020-03-22 23:56:54 UTC  

What? No probably not

2020-03-22 23:57:00 UTC  

You may find it interesting

2020-03-22 23:57:17 UTC  

> Okay so you know what entropy is at least, right, descent to worthless noise.
> When you eat, you are maintaining yourself, in opposition to such a descent
@Hexidecimark Wut

2020-03-22 23:57:20 UTC  

Maybe but I’m doing other things

2020-03-22 23:57:34 UTC  

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2020-03-22 23:59:02 UTC  

@snake
Hey dude, I thought you left the server or something

2020-03-22 23:59:07 UTC  

I did

2020-03-22 23:59:22 UTC  

Why, may I know?

2020-03-23 00:00:14 UTC  

Eating is degrading matter into energy, it IS entropy. The idea that using entropy to preserve self somehow resists entropy is completely nonsensical. That isn't how it works at all.

I like to use a skyscraper as example as some people see such structures as a sort of negative entropy. What about the building materials? The mining operations? The trucks used to haul it all? That massve energy expenditure is all entropy, the tower standing before you is MADE BY ENTROPY and is us simply expressing degradation of the universe in an ordered way.

2020-03-23 00:00:40 UTC  

This is why I call life an entropic process, it literally is.

2020-03-23 00:01:34 UTC  

If something results because of causality then it happened because of entropy.

2020-03-23 00:02:54 UTC  

Your argument so far is essentially "working for entropy is resisting it because you keep living, even if living dissipates heat, energy and deconstructs matter. Even if everything we can possibly do is an entropic function, staying alive is resistance"

2020-03-23 00:03:14 UTC  

Entropy is just descent into disorganization, so yes, its counter is organization

2020-03-23 00:03:16 UTC  

Nonsense. Utter bullshit.