Message from @phadreus

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2020-03-24 01:44:33 UTC  

And it wouldn't surprise me if Nietzsche was just trolling all along

2020-03-24 01:44:37 UTC  

Kant is a perfect example 😂

2020-03-24 01:44:48 UTC  

It is most certainly not for me. That's why I often consider their works verbal diarrhea, lol. Regardless of how intelligent I may or may not be, questions of an existential nature draw very little of my attention.

2020-03-24 01:45:09 UTC  

> And it wouldn't surprise me if Nietzsche was just trolling all along
@ETBrooD this tbh, I get a feeling that he liked to fuck with people

2020-03-24 01:52:17 UTC  

I'd like to say that I base my opinion of nietzsche on 2 main factors rather than specific details of his work. These two things being:

1. The insane amount of influence his work has had since his death. If we are judging who the "greatest" is on influence upon modern society then he's up there

2. The fact that his thoughts were extremely novel and that he was basically an enigma of time. If you look into it this will be the main praise of Nietzsche, as well as being the major factor for why people attribute to him 180-200 IQ. He was, essentially, as original and groundbreaking as a person can possibly be.

2020-03-24 01:54:05 UTC  

I'd also like to point out that most people have a hard time looking at things through historical context and that we stand on the backs of giants; nietzsche being one of such giants. Nietzsche had less giants to stand upon. @ETBrooD

2020-03-24 01:55:39 UTC  

We look at him knowing a billion things he couldn't even imagine.

2020-03-24 01:56:06 UTC  

And yet people still read his books

2020-03-24 01:56:22 UTC  

Looking for meaning

2020-03-24 02:00:52 UTC  

Almost nobody reads Kant's books looking for meaning, doing so would mostly be pointless anyway.. Considering Kant basically only made systems of thought that weren't as useful as they seemed and then projected them as existent, *a priori.* Most of his writing is about such things and it's really just him floundering. Like a beached fish with delusions of walking.

2020-03-24 02:01:58 UTC  

In a way Kant was sorta a precursor to post modernism and Nietzsche was a precursor to people who fight postmodernism. Hot take, probably one that will get me flack.

2020-03-24 02:02:15 UTC  

But whatever

2020-03-24 02:02:21 UTC  

"Maybe try starting with a science based philosopher like freud or etc."
My sides

2020-03-24 02:02:44 UTC  

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2020-03-24 02:03:39 UTC  

Every time I read something Hex says I feel dumber for having done so. This video really is a perfect description of him

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/691829552321921084/YouCut_20200323_154735282.mp4

2020-03-24 02:05:06 UTC  

It's like your only means of communication rests on binary of uncut autistic junk text and tantrums

2020-03-24 02:05:52 UTC  

<:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>

2020-03-24 02:06:38 UTC  

> "Maybe try starting with a science based philosopher like freud or etc."
> My sides
@Hexidecimark Can you please explain what about this comment you find to be amusing? Just curious.

2020-03-24 02:07:52 UTC  

Every other thing Freud thought was the most fantastical flavor of worthless, which is why almost his whole body of work has basically been discarded

2020-03-24 02:08:25 UTC  

Not saying he wasn't important or very influential, but scientific is a bit of a stretch

2020-03-24 02:09:02 UTC  

You've obviously never read him and obviously don't know what you're talking about. He's still widely taught and respected in and by modern psychology.

2020-03-24 02:09:53 UTC  

You don't even have the slightest inkling of psychology, let alone in a modern sense

2020-03-24 02:10:10 UTC  

Well, psychology isn't a pure science by any metric. However freud was far more scientific minded than most modern psychologists, vast majority of whom do not actually use psychoanalysis. The field is sorta dead tbh.

2020-03-24 02:11:05 UTC  

> You don't even have the slightest inkling of psychology, let alone in a modern sense
@Hexidecimark I've ***literally*** been studying it since I was a child, but okay rere, whatever you say.

2020-03-24 02:11:19 UTC  

Freud was wrong on a lot of things

2020-03-24 02:11:28 UTC  

Try reading a book by freud. @Hexidecimark

2020-03-24 02:11:44 UTC  

@ETBrooD Everyone is.

2020-03-24 02:11:50 UTC  

Eh, no

2020-03-24 02:11:54 UTC  

I've read more of Jung

2020-03-24 02:12:07 UTC  

Einstein was mostly right. Freud was very often wrong. And the list of his mistakes is only increasing, Einstein's is not.

2020-03-24 02:12:41 UTC  

Are you even serious? Einstein was wrong about a lot of stuff <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2020-03-24 02:12:56 UTC  

the fuck

2020-03-24 02:13:04 UTC  

Ever heard of space time? Literally a nonsensical theory.

2020-03-24 02:13:14 UTC  

One example? You said "a lot"

2020-03-24 02:13:28 UTC  

Well he didn't actually do that much

2020-03-24 02:13:31 UTC  

Freud was wrong on one of his most central concepts

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/691832034007580735/freud-psychosexual2.png

2020-03-24 02:13:42 UTC  

Some of his previously thought wrong ideas also come back later being considered right again

2020-03-24 02:13:45 UTC  

Space time was one of his big things

2020-03-24 02:14:04 UTC  

@ETBrooD Can you give an example of something freud was wrong about?

2020-03-24 02:14:36 UTC  

I think a good way to put it is that Freud was explanatory but he's not scientific because he never tried to be predictive.

2020-03-24 02:14:46 UTC  

Freud thought that if you accidentally say a word that you didn't mean to say, it reveals something about your true self