Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-10-25 22:06:14 UTC  

The idea is that the eventual out come of an event may be worth lying about if it prevents severe harm.

2018-10-25 22:09:36 UTC  

I wonder when AI will tell its first lie; when it legit decides that the objective truth is the wrong answer to give.

From what I've read, published by Dr. Paul Ekman in "Telling Lies," lying is a recent invention.
Humans coming from small tribes it was impossible to lie given that everyone knew everyone.
It is only after large groups of people started living together that humans were even able to lie.

And so, when will the first computer conclude that lying is the optimal response.

2018-10-25 22:11:12 UTC  

It will be when programmers dont put boundaries on the AI?

2018-10-25 22:11:14 UTC  

Our problem today appears to be distinguishing truth from fiction.
People can spout a bunch of word salad and others will defend it as fact.

2018-10-25 22:14:45 UTC  

I find it increasing difficult to have reasonable discussions with the rise in nonsense.
Yesterday I attempted civil dialog in regards to minimum wage increases affecting small businesses and all people could defend with were ad hominem attacks.
I ended the conversation with an npc meme and disabled notifications given that the bunch of them were circle jerking their friend's posts with likes.

2018-10-25 22:15:38 UTC  

Tim brings up a good point I pointed out earlier. There is people who are legitimate asylum seekers, but they are being drowned out by economic migrants.

2018-10-25 22:18:27 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan do you think the military would resort to violence if the caravan becomes violent?

2018-10-25 22:18:37 UTC  

yes, good point

2018-10-25 22:18:41 UTC  

There is more that's contradictory.

2018-10-25 22:18:44 UTC  

Fore xample:

2018-10-25 22:19:06 UTC  

Left keeps propagandizing that these people are fleeing violent countries. If that was true, they would WANT borders.

2018-10-25 22:19:20 UTC  

How are you going to keep out all the violence they are fleeing without proper borders?

2018-10-25 22:19:27 UTC  

the caravan has to strike first for the military to justifiably strike back

2018-10-25 22:19:43 UTC  

Strike?

2018-10-25 22:19:46 UTC  

Strike what?

2018-10-25 22:19:53 UTC  

@willc it remains to be seen as to whether the military will be used in a 'front line' capacity on the border. the 800 currently being sent at meant for logistical purposes.

2018-10-25 22:19:54 UTC  

Being on US soil is illegal.

2018-10-25 22:20:07 UTC  

if they're on the front line, then the real question is whether or not they will be issued live rounds.

2018-10-25 22:20:08 UTC  

They are not going to launch mortars. They are just going to approach the wall.

2018-10-25 22:20:59 UTC  

BTW, I am not sure if they are allowed to just shoot - not that they would anyway, out of political reasons.

2018-10-25 22:21:39 UTC  

Understanding the exaggeration of Jews can be done in understanding Genesis where God lies about Adam and Eve dying by eating the fruit and punishing the snake that tells the truth.

I mean, I don't see Adam and Eve walking around going to the movies these days, do you?

2018-10-25 22:21:54 UTC  

If people all made a run through it - yes, some people would get through and need to be picked up by local police in painstaking efforts and deported.

2018-10-25 22:21:57 UTC  

We don't generally just shoot people who normally show up at the border asking for asylum

2018-10-25 22:22:15 UTC  

I don't think the military will resort to violence... they will crowd control with the tools that they have access too.

2018-10-25 22:22:16 UTC  

WillC that post is also why I fund tim and post here

2018-10-25 22:22:32 UTC  

the crazy talk has begun

2018-10-25 22:22:38 UTC  

this is literally mass medication

2018-10-25 22:22:41 UTC  

Technically all these people should be considered like any other person coming to the US. The problem is making sure all are caught and processed.

2018-10-25 22:22:48 UTC  

" But putting lithium in the water would actually be a mind-control plot: It would be a concerted effort by the government to put mind-altering chemicals in the water supply to change the behavior of the citizenry."

2018-10-25 22:22:49 UTC  

lithium in the water - brilliant

2018-10-25 22:22:50 UTC  

The leftist forums I used to go to have gone full progressive and cannot be reasoned with .

2018-10-25 22:22:51 UTC  

Well, if they all just formed an ordered line and waited their turn, this is a non-issue.

2018-10-25 22:22:53 UTC  

Holy shit

2018-10-25 22:22:53 UTC  

Wow... just wow. These people are stupid.

2018-10-25 22:23:12 UTC  

Who knows the effects it will have on the population.

2018-10-25 22:23:18 UTC  

there is a theory that the fall of Rome was precipitated by lead in the water

2018-10-25 22:23:20 UTC  

Many people could die because they are allergic.

2018-10-25 22:23:26 UTC  

we would be courting disaster