Message from @Blackhawk342
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The UN is a great way to advance our interests. Again, whatever you may think of Iraq now, in 2003 the administration wanted to invade and the UN provided a legal basis for it.
@Dusty Morgan , would you rather China do it instead? They certainly want to.
Well UN has went against American interests lately.
I'd rather we keep the Americas dependent on us rather than China. I like having big wide oceans between us and any potential superpower adversary.
Having a Soviet puppet state 90 miles off Florida sucked enough
Oh yeah... having them depend on us is good and all. But it harms United States citizens and our nation's ability to function at times.
The Cons are starting to outweigh the Pros.
Anyway, a weak League of Nations without the US in large part led to WWII. Despite some interest here in a European War I still don't want to see my son called to die in one. Diplomacy is cheap, in blood and treasure.
What price maintaining the Monroe Doctrine?
Do we really want Chinese bases in Honduras and Nicaragua?
China desperately wants bases close to us to cause mischief like they feel we cause from The Philippines and Japan.
The veto goes both ways
US has to maintain superiority in the hemisphere and the world
taking care of those nations amounts to cash and training, anything beyond that is "imperialism"
Problem is no one else wants us to
Humanitarian aid is imperialism?
Honduras is still suffering from some nasty hurricanes in years past
As ive had it explained to me yes
It's a mess and the source of most of that caravan that has everyone's undies in a bunch
Yes, I hear that from the left
I actually am somewhat sympathetic to it
But it's still the wrong way to look at it
The idea is we want to teach a man to fish rather than give him a fish
That sounds great
Why would they fish in their pond when they can go a hundred miles to fish in someone elses pond and send the fish back home?
But if China is willing to give the man a fish and the man reciprocates by offering his home up, I'd rather be the one giving the fishes
But it shouldn't mean that we cut off aid just because we may seem to appear imperialistic
No we shouldnt cut off the aid
The mindset of the left is that anything the US does in terms of action abroad is imperialistic
I'm a bleeding heart but I make love to Henry Kissinger when it comes to geopolitical realism
And yes, that *should* be a scary image :p
No, foreign aid is stupid. Our government shouldn't be giving away our resources. Private individuals and interest groups sure. But not our government imo.
>finger guns
im fiscally conservative and socially liberal youve never debated someone like me
Billions for defense but not one cent for goodwill, eh?
Someone will give the aid
Might as well be us
No matter where you go, money equals power
Hey *highfives @Blackhawk342 *
You and me both