Message from @AHeroQuest

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2018-10-28 06:06:04 UTC  

As ive had it explained to me yes

2018-10-28 06:06:15 UTC  

It's a mess and the source of most of that caravan that has everyone's undies in a bunch

2018-10-28 06:06:26 UTC  

Apparently its making the dependent on and subservient to whatever nation provides the aid

2018-10-28 06:06:37 UTC  

Yes, I hear that from the left

2018-10-28 06:06:50 UTC  

I actually am somewhat sympathetic to it

2018-10-28 06:06:55 UTC  

But it's still the wrong way to look at it

2018-10-28 06:07:18 UTC  

The idea is we want to teach a man to fish rather than give him a fish

2018-10-28 06:07:25 UTC  

That sounds great

2018-10-28 06:07:51 UTC  

Why would they fish in their pond when they can go a hundred miles to fish in someone elses pond and send the fish back home?

2018-10-28 06:08:01 UTC  

But if China is willing to give the man a fish and the man reciprocates by offering his home up, I'd rather be the one giving the fishes

2018-10-28 06:08:07 UTC  

But it shouldn't mean that we cut off aid just because we may seem to appear imperialistic

2018-10-28 06:08:19 UTC  

No we shouldnt cut off the aid

2018-10-28 06:08:59 UTC  

The mindset of the left is that anything the US does in terms of action abroad is imperialistic

2018-10-28 06:09:02 UTC  

I'm a bleeding heart but I make love to Henry Kissinger when it comes to geopolitical realism

2018-10-28 06:09:22 UTC  

And yes, that *should* be a scary image :p

2018-10-28 06:09:53 UTC  

No, foreign aid is stupid. Our government shouldn't be giving away our resources. Private individuals and interest groups sure. But not our government imo.

2018-10-28 06:10:15 UTC  

>finger guns
im fiscally conservative and socially liberal youve never debated someone like me

2018-10-28 06:10:28 UTC  

Billions for defense but not one cent for goodwill, eh?

2018-10-28 06:10:35 UTC  

Someone will give the aid

2018-10-28 06:10:40 UTC  

Might as well be us

2018-10-28 06:10:56 UTC  

No matter where you go, money equals power

2018-10-28 06:10:57 UTC  

Hey *highfives @Blackhawk342 *

2018-10-28 06:11:01 UTC  

You and me both

2018-10-28 06:11:03 UTC  

eyyyyy

2018-10-28 06:11:16 UTC  

It doesn't look good on us if we suddenly drop the ball

2018-10-28 06:11:23 UTC  

Plus the chinese have a bad habit of making their aid come in the form of infastructure projects

2018-10-28 06:11:41 UTC  

I know. They make countries dependent on them for maintenance and more toys.

2018-10-28 06:11:47 UTC  

It's like geopolitical drugs.

2018-10-28 06:11:47 UTC  

Good will should not be forced on our citizens to foreign ones @DrYuriMom

2018-10-28 06:11:48 UTC  

And that is even if the project is ever completed

2018-10-28 06:11:49 UTC  

Where they bring in chinese contractors to do the work
and the chinese government gives the nation a loan so they can pay for the projects

2018-10-28 06:12:03 UTC  

The Chinese learned well how to use drugs for geopolitical means from the Brits

2018-10-28 06:12:17 UTC  

This is important because the chinese economy is all based around construction

2018-10-28 06:12:43 UTC  

People in china dont have retirement accounts, they have 4-8 unfurnished unfinished apartments

2018-10-28 06:13:00 UTC  

I can see the economy based on business transactions but not with construction

2018-10-28 06:13:02 UTC  

Hiniku, that's a very purist notion. I'd rather my son's blood not be spent fighting where some realpolitik could have prevented it.

2018-10-28 06:13:26 UTC  

Why can't it come from the pockets of nonprofits built to help other nations. Why does it have to be our government?

2018-10-28 06:13:44 UTC  

Because those countries feel no loyalty towards the non profits

2018-10-28 06:14:02 UTC  

It's great if that happens, but if it is the responsibility of our government to protect us then they should use the best means available to protect us

2018-10-28 06:14:10 UTC  

We pay them and they like us in return

2018-10-28 06:14:25 UTC  

because we have to make sure the other countries know we are in charge