Message from @Redneo

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2018-10-30 09:21:32 UTC  

Should massive corporations be allowed to ban anyone when they have so much public influence

2018-10-30 09:21:44 UTC  

Personaly, i dont care

2018-10-30 09:22:28 UTC  

Im glad if they get massivly fucked up tbh. We have technology wuch as blockchain now, nothing, including highly illegal material, can be removed.

2018-10-30 09:22:51 UTC  

Like dont get me wrong, I think your right but how do we stop and prove they are a publisher?

2018-10-30 09:23:03 UTC  

We cant argue the problem

2018-10-30 09:23:05 UTC  

Here's my proposal. Very large social media sites and tech firms (say, >40% market share, though precise numbers and triggers are debatable) are required to act as a common carrier and cannot discriminate for any reason that's not explicitly illegal (like the phone companies or mail services).

alternatively, we could create a two-type system. You can act as a publisher and curate or do what you want, but become liable for what you host (within takedown limits). Or you can be a platform and obtain immunity from basically everything that's not expressly illegal.

Right now, you can curate *and* be immune.

Removing the ability to curate from everyone is infeasible, impractical and poorly thought out (you would have difficulty running a personal blog for example and the regulators would have to monitor everything on the internet). Simply making everyone liable just opens up the SPLC to sue everyone they don't like into oblivion and would kill the internet as a whole.

2018-10-30 09:23:09 UTC  

We must argue the solution

2018-10-30 09:23:25 UTC  

You'd need new legislation.

2018-10-30 09:24:14 UTC  

The solution is the free market

2018-10-30 09:24:14 UTC  

Giant mega corps being considered common carriers is the best option imo

2018-10-30 09:24:19 UTC  

teh obvious answer to cortez's figure is that she's including undocumented's in it

2018-10-30 09:24:28 UTC  

the solution is to NOT have big tech companies in control of social media

2018-10-30 09:24:36 UTC  

Fuck off with that invisible hand of the market shit

2018-10-30 09:24:52 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos except the solutions exist

2018-10-30 09:25:04 UTC  

its not invisible, we are there

2018-10-30 09:25:09 UTC  

That's the only people who will ever be in control of social media

2018-10-30 09:25:19 UTC  

They just have to be restricted

2018-10-30 09:25:20 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos actualy, no

2018-10-30 09:25:33 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos decentralised systems are controlled by nobody

2018-10-30 09:25:41 UTC  

How is it a "free" market if its regulated?

2018-10-30 09:25:54 UTC  

@Cody its not regulated

2018-10-30 09:25:57 UTC  

I mean.

2018-10-30 09:26:00 UTC  

We regulate murder.

2018-10-30 09:26:04 UTC  

Can't be havin that

2018-10-30 09:26:04 UTC  

We have to reign in those who are in control. No we're not gonna have fucking socialized social media

2018-10-30 09:26:07 UTC  

@Redneo That's not true at all. Someone has to maintain those systems. They "own" it in the sense that they can manipulate them.

2018-10-30 09:26:18 UTC  

That's retarded and wouldn't work

2018-10-30 09:26:18 UTC  

You said "The solution is the free market"

2018-10-30 09:26:24 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos socialised? WHat the heck are you on about?

2018-10-30 09:26:41 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos its not retarded, we have it and it does work

2018-10-30 09:26:45 UTC  

So if no regulation led to issue wouldnt we then need to regulate

2018-10-30 09:26:48 UTC  

<:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-10-30 09:27:14 UTC  

@Cody there is no issue. We have social media completly free of censorship. Not even illegal stuff will be censored

2018-10-30 09:27:21 UTC  

>decentralized systems
>Not controlled by corporations
>Somehow this isn't socialist though

2018-10-30 09:27:42 UTC  

I thought you centralize shit in socialist systems

2018-10-30 09:27:45 UTC  

But the reason illegal stuff is censored is good

2018-10-30 09:27:45 UTC  

That's literally how socialism works bro

2018-10-30 09:27:48 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos no, its closer to anarchocapitalist

2018-10-30 09:28:03 UTC  

@Cody illegal stuff is NOT censored

2018-10-30 09:28:08 UTC  

It mostly pertains to things like child pornography

2018-10-30 09:28:13 UTC  

But decentralized systems is socialist?