@Dr.Wol yes based irrationality

NPC
>raising kids to be good at school bad
>kid commit suicid
>asian bad parent

people are irrational

people are irrational, we are drawn to emotional appeals and our inner emotions to make decisions before what we consider logic.

its irrational because its not in your best interests

"the gulags werent that bad" "people werent sent there to die they were sent there to work as punishment"

sorry dude i know a lot of happy adult asians

that is why its important any presentation mixes facts with emotional appeal hence the use of Pathos Logos and Ethos

and I said a rational society wouldnt be able to justify that

i don't live in a statistical graph with suicide rates

@Ottobon didnt say they dont exist lmao

and you can talk about suicide rates of asians but we have a whole shitload of white poorly educated hipster kids cutting themselves over bieber

there is no such thing as a rational society though, due to the human factor

@Ottobon sure I agree but what im teaching would stop that

Its rather funny, when denying/protecting gulags they sound similar to neo nazis

@Dr.Wol no due to the ideas we have currently

what r u teaching i am not aware of this

rational selfishness

would never happen ttv, "In a rational society" is on the level of "In socialist utopia" or "In ancap utopia"

It will never happen

we are all statesmen here or something wtf lmao

@Dr.Wol im not a socialist or ancap

lmao

eitherway forget i said asians because i grew up mostly in white area

i didn't say that

oh

i'm saying your claim of "in a rational society" is just as much wishful thinking

I just reread it

and all the decent rich kids had same thing, somehow their parents gained decent control, not total like i guess bad version of asian parents (and higher suicide rate type people) but enough their kids were like WEW and stuff good grades u know bigtime thinky thoughts and all that jam

@Dr.Wol its possible with Ayn Rands ideas being one of the most influencing and time

It wouldn't be, Objectivism is too much wishful thinking

@Existence is identity they commit suicide because they are Taught not to burden there problems on others its a cultural problem at that point

no

@Walsp thats not why

east asian society has a problem with colectivism, the society over their frequently see workers and people as groups instead of individuals as well as a high expectation of success. when people feel that they have failed or that they have not become successful, many take their lives because they feel themselves to be worthless to the society around them which they believe ostracizes them. America and other western societies are individualists, where everyone has their own unique path and is their own person. so naturally we also have many who feel the need to be the "hero" of their story and do something to seperate themselves from the norm of society hence the SJWs and progressivees

have you spoken to japanese ?

thats one of the many reason

@Yugure based as hell

you'd be fighting humanities basic instincts, and that would lead to split like we see now in the culture war

Where you have "rational" thinkers, and SJW's doing REEEEE

also what walsp says

@Dr.Wol humans are self interested of course ideas can change that

Objectivism on paper would work, but it would require you to ignore human emotion

And anyone who seeks power will manipulate that,
You'd have someone preaching emotions which appeal more to people